LinuxQuestions.org
Review your favorite Linux distribution.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software
User Name
Password
Linux - Software This forum is for Software issues.
Having a problem installing a new program? Want to know which application is best for the job? Post your question in this forum.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 07-02-2015, 12:29 PM   #1
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
So I bought a new computer


My favourite portable died, and another one was on the blink, so decided to get a couple of new Dells, both running Ubuntu, which is the least intuitive programme in the universe, but if they run Ubuntu they should run Mint Right? No!! Once again Mint struck out. We circumnavigated this on our other 2 machines with Mandriva last time neither of which are being replaced by a Dell, but I infinitely prefer Mint and again it just doesn't work. It seems loadsa people have the same problem, and clearly the developers know about it as it is in the 17.2 release notes, but no solutions offered. If one installs any version of mint, including 13, and yes I have them all, the screen freezes on start up after install, if one gets that far. With 17.2 I loaded it without GPU support in the end and it ran fine from the disc, soon as I installed it froze on startup. OK, so then I did nomodeset, took out quiet splash etc. yada yada, still the same! How come the dog Ubuntu can still run happily but not Mint? These are Celron processors with an Intel graphics card so what on earth is wrong with Mint there!!!!! Not happy.
 
Old 07-02-2015, 12:47 PM   #2
jamison20000e
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: ...uncanny valley... infinity\1975; (randomly born:) Milwaukee, WI, US( + travel,) Earth&Mars (I wish,) END BORDER$!◣◢┌∩┐ Fe26-E,e...
Distribution: any GPL that work on freest-HW; has been KDE, CLI, Novena-SBC but open.. http://goo.gl/NqgqJx &c ;-)
Posts: 4,862
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565
Hi.

Do you checksums?
Quote:
... It seems loadsa people have the same problem, and clearly the developers know ...
Got links?
Quote:
... couple of new Dells ...
So they're new???
We could use tons more info here, check the second link in my signature. (Unless your just venting?)

Best wishes and have fun!

Last edited by jamison20000e; 07-02-2015 at 12:49 PM. Reason: semantics
 
Old 07-02-2015, 12:52 PM   #3
ardvark71
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Location: USA
Distribution: Lubuntu 14.04, 22.04, Windows 8.1 and 10
Posts: 6,282
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842
Hi...

As a suggestion, it looks like this model from Thinkpenguin.com would work with Mint preinstalled. Cheaper model here. Give them a call to make sure. Is it possible you can return the Dells?

Regards...
 
Old 07-03-2015, 01:15 AM   #4
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
I get that more info would be helpful, but all I can tell you is the machines are Dell Inspiron 7551 with Ubuntu as standard. The one I've been playing with works fine in safe graphics mode from the disc, but not from the hard drive. It starts, runs up to the first screen and locks there. Just out of interest I downloaded Ubuntu and tried that and it also locks, so there is something in Dell version not in the others, but if the machine won't run from the hard disc one cannot even update drivers. Very puzzled.
 
Old 07-03-2015, 02:26 AM   #5
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
OK additionalson this The machine lights up and says checking for media, then says media found, then says Start PXE over IPv4, then starts loading Mint after 3 minutes or so. We get to the log in screen and I can log in but the mouse doesn't work after log in I can't seem to do anything. I dont know if that helps anyone at all.
 
Old 07-03-2015, 04:48 AM   #6
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 19,872
Blog Entries: 12

Rep: Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051Reputation: 6051
Quote:
Originally Posted by CestRic View Post
Dell Inspiron 7551
i cannot find a machine by that name.

more effort & real information from your side are required for us to be able to help you solve your problem.

edit:
maybe this link explains how to provide information:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422475&
and of course the first one in my signature.

Last edited by ondoho; 07-03-2015 at 04:52 AM.
 
Old 07-03-2015, 05:11 AM   #7
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Hi, thanks for trying to help. I have been playing with it all morning, it is just the touchpad. I plugged in an all in one keyboard on USB and can use it with that touchpad. Went into Synaptic package manager and tried to enable it by using other drivers but ended up with broken packages. Repaired those, restarted and ended up with a linux login screen. Still working on it will keep you informed.
 
Old 07-03-2015, 06:10 AM   #8
jamison20000e
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: ...uncanny valley... infinity\1975; (randomly born:) Milwaukee, WI, US( + travel,) Earth&Mars (I wish,) END BORDER$!◣◢┌∩┐ Fe26-E,e...
Distribution: any GPL that work on freest-HW; has been KDE, CLI, Novena-SBC but open.. http://goo.gl/NqgqJx &c ;-)
Posts: 4,862
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565Reputation: 1565
http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/m/modenumb.htm(10)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=22Dell+Inspiron+7551%22+LINUX+

All the Dell's I have put Linux on have been fine but they were always a few years old so?
If I had problems back in the day I would try a different distros... for example what all your distros are made from Debian (I usually use at lest the Jessie version, Wheezy is more "stable" but old so I find needs way more tweaking) then up date the apt source.list to include contrib and non-free (for proprietary software, drivers and such) https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Component ...

Wondering where you get your copies of Linuces from; do you download .iso and then use CD or USB to burn the image if so do you check them for errors asked in my first post? I also find Linux magazines distros to be amazing out of the box (so to speak. )

Keep at it,,, Rome wasn't destroyed in a day...

Last edited by jamison20000e; 07-03-2015 at 06:13 AM.
 
Old 07-03-2015, 10:57 AM   #9
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Wondering where you get your copies of Linuces from; do you download .iso and then use CD or USB to burn the image if so do you check them for errors asked in my first post? I also find Linux magazines distros to be amazing out of the box (so to speak. )


These are all downloaded and verified distros but nothing either they can't drive the graphics, network or touchpad, and often 2 of the 3. Mint 17.2 only has the Touchpad problem, and I wrongly accused it of freezing at the outset of this post. I've found a lot of solutions on the net but none work, and in synaptic package manager I found what was described as being the ideal package but it won't install because broken packages need to be fixed first. I click to fix them but apparently nothing happens until I attempt a reboot at which point the system falls over. And yes I did verify the disc before using it. Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
 
Old 07-03-2015, 11:40 AM   #10
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
And yes, sorry folks it's a Dell Inspiron 3551, I really should take the trouble to put my glasses on.
 
Old 07-05-2015, 07:45 PM   #11
taylorkh
Senior Member
 
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: North Carolina
Distribution: CentOS 6, CentOS 7 (with Mate), Ubuntu 16.04 Mate
Posts: 2,127

Rep: Reputation: 174Reputation: 174
Just a couple of comments...

You can run the Gnome interface on Ubuntu - makes it look like a computer instead of a cell phone. There are many descriptions of how to install the old interface - or just ask. This will work on top of the initial Ubuntu install and thus should not impact any hardware drivers.

Ken
 
2 members found this post helpful.
Old 07-05-2015, 10:27 PM   #12
rokytnji
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Location: Waaaaay out West Texas
Distribution: antiX 22, MX 21 Fluxbox
Posts: 6,931
Blog Entries: 21

Rep: Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454Reputation: 3454
Quote:
Originally Posted by CestRic View Post
And yes, sorry folks it's a Dell Inspiron 3551, I really should take the trouble to put my glasses on.
Edit:
Quote:
Thanks so much for the help on that guys, though the link doesnt work
Fixed I think. I don't know why the >br was inserted in my forum link earlier. I double checked now and it seems OK.

My link only covers preinstalled Ubuntu versions of your laptop.

Quote:
Standard images of Ubuntu may not work at all on the system or may not work well, though Canonical and computer manufacturers will try to certify the system with future standard releases of Ubuntu.

Last edited by rokytnji; 07-06-2015 at 06:22 AM.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 01:03 AM   #13
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Thanks so much for the help on that guys, though the link doesnt work. And we may change the interface on the second machine, and I'll see if Dell can send me a copy of the original Ubuntu to install. Thanks for the help I'll keep you posted.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 04:19 AM   #14
273
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian Sid AMD64, Raspbian Wheezy, various VMs
Posts: 7,679

Rep: Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373
Do you know which version of the kernel Mint installs for you? Have you updated all your packages?
The touchpad was flaky on this laptop until I grabbed a newer kernel and with kernel 4.0 it works even better.
 
Old 07-06-2015, 06:35 AM   #15
CestRic
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 32

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Thanks for that, though I can only seem to find 3 variations, could you let me have the exact number and I can patch it in from terminal?
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hello. I bought a dragon core jotter computer in Chinese, don't know his configuratio openjian Linux - Hardware 1 02-23-2014 04:32 AM
Bought computer that has Unregistered Linux Journeyer Linux - Newbie 39 12-03-2007 06:55 PM
For that price I could've bought a new computer... dohpaz General 13 01-19-2007 03:38 AM
bought a new computer - moving key settings, files, etc DJOtaku Linux - General 3 09-18-2005 05:08 PM
Will this computer I bought be fully linux compatible? bennett.david Linux - Hardware 15 07-17-2004 01:20 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:58 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration