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Old 07-09-2013, 10:18 AM   #1
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smoothing out Firefox scrolling


I have an old Celeron D that I recently gave an Nvidia card and 2 GB of RAM in the hopes of improving its Firefox performance. It dual boots in XP where I don't notice nearly the number of hesitations when scrolling a window. Does anyone have any tips? Rendering speed isn't what I'm concerned about, just UI responsiveness.

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Old 07-09-2013, 10:46 AM   #2
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Hi there,

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I have an old Celeron D that I recently gave an Nvidia card and 2 GB of RAM in the hopes of improving its Firefox performance. It dual boots in XP where I don't notice nearly the number of hesitations when scrolling a window.
I didn't quite get the meaning of this sentence. Are you going to say it works well in XP, but sticky in Linux? Are you only considering XP at the moment where it keeps stalling?

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Does anyone have any tips? Rendering speed isn't what I'm concerned about, just UI responsiveness.
Oh. If responsiveness is your concern, Firefox is exactly what you do not want. Better use a less obese browser like Opera (be sure to get Opera 12.x, not the new 15) or maybe Chrome. Firefox is notorious for its sluggishness. Has been ever since version 1. The allegedly immature releases with a '0' as their major version, however, were still fairly agile.

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Old 07-09-2013, 10:58 AM   #3
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Are you going to say it works well in XP, but sticky in Linux? Are you only considering XP at the moment where it keeps stalling?
Yes, on slower machines XP seems to perform much more consistently in this respect. I'm not sure I follow your second question.

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If responsiveness is your concern, Firefox is exactly what you do not want. Better use a less obese browser
Unfortunately, Firefox has plugins that I'm pretty attached to. But if I could get performance on par with Windows, I'd be quite content.
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #4
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If you're using the nvidia proprietary driver:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
 
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My card is a Geforce 8, so I don't think this post applies. Thanks, though!
 
Old 07-09-2013, 11:39 AM   #6
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Which version of Firefox are using? Try to disable autoscrolling and smooth scrolling, and in flashplugin settings, hardware acceleration if you have that.

Now if you want something faster try out Midori or if you wanna try something really different check out Luakit it is a good browser light and fast way different than what you are used to, but worth the experience.

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Just on the offchance... open a terminal and

Code:
$ nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1
(it's temporary, when you restart X it will be back as it was)

Open firefox and see if scrolling is any less jerky.

If not, go into edit -> preferences -> advanced - > general tab.

Look a the second section down: "browsing" and disable "smooth scrolling". You may also want to try with "hardware acceleration" disabled.

If you're using a heavy weight desktop environment like gnome or KDE, consider switching to something lighter such as Xfce or LXDE.

I would also consider removing the nvidia proprietary driver and trying nouveau instead. It's 2D rendering is a lot faster in my experience.
 
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:40 PM   #8
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Hi there,

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Yes, on slower machines XP seems to perform much more consistently in this respect. I'm not sure I follow your second question.
sorry, reading my post again I see that it was indeed ambiguous. Like your first one. ;-)
I was just trying to ask: Is your problem related to a) Windows or b) Linux?

I'm not surprised that Windows performs a bit better in terms of graphics. After all, we have to assume that ATI as well as nVidia spend a lot more manpower for the development and performance-tuning of Windows drivers than they do for their Linux drivers. I have a similar impression with one PC here with an ATI/AMD onboard graphics solution. This machine dual-boots either XP or Mint 13, and GUI performance in Windows is a lot better than in Linux, despite using the closed-source manufacturer's driver (which was a real performance boost in comparison to the open source driver).

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Unfortunately, Firefox has plugins that I'm pretty attached to. But if I could get performance on par with Windows, I'd be quite content.
I see. In fact, one or the other browser extension is also my main reason for using Firefox occasionally. Like Firebug or LiveHTTP.

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:12 PM   #9
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planarian, try setting "gfx.xrender.enabled" to "false" in firefox's about:config page. That improved my scrolling performance considerably, although I have turned off smooth scrolling in firefox.
 
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:33 PM   #10
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This is the current Firefox 22 ? right ?
and not some very old version

have a look at firefox's
Code:
 about:config
type that into the address box
then in the searchbar in the config tab type in " scroll" without the two ""
make sure that everything there is set at the DEFAULT setting


Just double click it to change a Boolean setting

about the only one that might need to be set by you is
Code:
general.autoScroll;true
that turns on the middle click mouse up / down arrow for scrolling by moving the mouse pointer

you might need to turn this off but with 2 gig of ram , not likely
Code:
general.smoothScroll.other;true
if this one is set to true it will look like ff is scrolling with a time lag
Code:
general.smoothScroll;false
make sure it is false

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Old 07-11-2013, 10:14 PM   #11
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Between these different tweaks I think I'm seeing some improvement. It still isn't perfect, but one rarely finds perfection in Linux

I'll go ahead and mark this one solved. Thank you all for your help!
 
Old 07-12-2013, 03:53 PM   #12
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Hi there,

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It still isn't perfect, but one rarely finds perfection in Linux
... but yet you get a lot closer to perfection than you could ever get with Windows. :-)

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Old 07-12-2013, 04:57 PM   #13
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it also is possible that this is a very old ff7
and plugins are not compatible

we do not know what version of ff this is
nor the java and flash used

nor what DE is being used
all of those can add to ram usage , leaving not enough for ff
as i type this Seamonkey is using 330 Meg of ram
 
  


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