yeah i agree. i would do that if you want debian. personally i would also consider vector or slackware (again with xfce)

hah, yeah, dsl is gone now ... I installed sarge and built it up from a minimal install. It's funny though, it's doing the same thing in this distro

I set the XF86Config-4 configuration to use the "neomagic" driver and it's still doing the classic framebuffer effect ... what should I do? I know this laptop can do something other than framebuffer, Knoppix proves it

hmm... look and see if you can find that driver and settings xfree uses in Knoppix.

Ah yeah, I eventually ended up with just installing Sarge. The same thing happened with the framebuffer, but I fixed it. Since I knew Knoppix didn't have a problem, I just booted it via Live CD, mouned my sarge partition, and copied the XF86Config-4 file from it's /etc/X11 directory to my own /etc/X11 directory. I know it's kinda like cheating, but it worked out real good, haha. Knoppix was very supportive of me borrowing it's great hardware detection for a minute

Now I just have to fix my sound and I'm on my way to making a reliable desktop environment. I installed sarge as a minimal install and apt-get'ed my way to a fluxbox/X environment. It's veeeery nice!