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Old 09-01-2009, 01:08 PM   #1
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Simple audio player with a decent library feature or fast filesystem browsing


I'm looking for a decent audio player for my netbook (Asus EeePC 1005HA running CrunchBang 9.04.1).
On my fullsize notebook I use Amarok 1.4, with the "files" tab open. I keep all my music files in the format "artist - album - tracknumberifany - title.ogg", and all in one folder, so all I have to do to find a specific song is to type the first few letters of the artist's name and scroll down.
On the netbook I've tried the following:

Rhythmbox: removes tracks from the playlist as it plays them, which is extremely irritating and, so fas as I can see, not avoidable; also, typing in text for some reason searches track titles and not artists. Confusing keyboard controls.
Amarok 2.0.2: locks up when scanning the music library. Which wouldn't be a problem if it let me use filesystem mode like the old version did, but it doesn't - it insists on scanning everything whenever I click on the music folder, and promptly locks up. It also requires A LOT of stuff to be installed, totalling about 170 megs, and is heavy on system resources.
Amarok 2.1.1: doesn't seem to work, for some reason. Doesn't add files to the playlist from the filesystem; adds them from the library, but then doesn't play them. Also, very system-heavy.
Listen 0.5: bugged. Parts of the interface vanish for no clear reason.
Listen 0.6.3: the library browser is all kinds of broken. It doesn't load all the songs, and if I tell it to rescan the library it ends up with lots of doubles. I'd use filesystem mode, but it's ridiculously slow, requiring about a minute to load before it lets me browse. I presume this is because of the huge number of files in my music folder, but then Amarok 1.4 didn't seem to have a problem with them.
Vlc: it has a rudimentary library feature, but selecting files involves A LOT of very accurate dragging and dropping, and you can't have it play by order of addition - it defaults to alphabetic, and will always queue them like that whenever new ones are added.
XMMS: hopelessly unstable, crashes all the bloody time
Winamp under wine (yes, I got desperate): way too much CPU hogging

I've spent the last three (edit: now four) hours trying to find some way of playing my music right, and utterly failed. I'm on the verge of insanity. Please help.

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Old 09-01-2009, 02:30 PM   #2
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Sad to say, but my favourite gui audio player under linux is Foobar2000 under wine. It's a no-nonsense player that is extremely customisable, with a fantastic media library. Under linux, the ipod support is lacking, but works great in Windows.

Now, I rarely use foobar2k in linux because I found a beautiful cli app called plait. You type "plait strav fire 1919", and it pipes Stravinsky's Firebird Suite 1919 version to my cli audio player of choice (mplayer). Had I multiple matches (say, CSO vs LSO), it would play one, then the other.

I also have come across Herrie, a nice cli media library/player, but I haven't been able to use plait and herrie like I want. I'd like to have plait queue files on herrie's active playlist. I'm sure there's a way, but I'm content enough with plait alone. The great thing about herrie is vi style bindings.

Another thing that works really well for me is plain ol bash + mplayer. All my music is tagged nicely (in part thanks to Picard. Rip to flac, convert to lame, tag and rename with Picard). Screen gives me all the ttys I need.

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Old 09-01-2009, 03:00 PM   #3
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moc (music on console) is a full-screen player designed to be powerful and easy to use.

I major advantage: don't need to move my hands off the keyboard to use it, intuitive controls, very lean on memory

(Ubuntu package "moc" -- executable "mocp")
 
Old 09-01-2009, 03:23 PM   #4
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I second moc. If all you want is something that can easily navigate the fs and can be easily handled with a few keystrokes, moc fits well. And it's incredibly light, fast and customizable. A neat feature of moc is that it can be closed once you are playing the music, a daemon will stay on the background, and you can reconnect to it with mocp -y.
 
Old 09-01-2009, 03:30 PM   #5
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After a LOT of attempts, I might have found what I'm looking for in Exaile. It's the one I've found so far with a quick filesystem browser and playlist the way I intend it. It uses more CPU than I like (constant 15% playing Ogg, occasionally fluctuating a bit), but by now I'm desperate, so it'll have to do.
SongBird also seems like it might satisfy, having what seems to be a decent library browser, but it hogs even more CPU (about 25%), so I'll stick with Exaile for now.
Mocp surprised me by hogging more CPU than Exaile (about 23%), which I wasn't expecting considering its nature. I'll pass.

Any other suggestions are welcome, of course.
 
Old 09-01-2009, 04:31 PM   #6
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Mocp surprised me by hogging more CPU than Exaile (about 23%), which I wasn't expecting considering its nature. I'll pass.
How are you managing to make moc do that? (Come to think of it, moc *might* reach that level of CPU usage while initially scanning your newly added files. I just used it to play some OGGs and MP3s, and couldn't make it exceed 5% CPU usage.

(spec: Celeron 2.0GHz, 2GB RAM, Linux Mint 7 Gloria, Kernel 2.6.28-15-generic.)

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Old 09-02-2009, 01:37 AM   #7
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It's strange indeed, I suppose you tested all the players playing exactly the same file, because when it comes to codecs, each file can waste a very different amount of cpu time. In any case, if you found that exaile works for you then it's a legitimate choice as any other.
 
Old 09-02-2009, 04:35 AM   #8
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How are you managing to make moc do that?
mocp -> select ogg file -> press enter.

The high number is not really moc's fault here; my netbook has an Atom processor that's energy efficient but that gets owned, performance-wise, by pretty much anything else on the market today.
It's a relative thing; on the same processor exaile manages to eat less cpu power...

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It's strange indeed, I suppose you tested all the players playing exactly the same file, because when it comes to codecs, each file can waste a very different amount of cpu time.
Yep - "Knowing me, knowing you" by Abba. First one I saw and clicked.

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Old 11-06-2009, 10:37 AM   #9
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Well, I thought I'd tell you how I solved this.

After screaming at Exaile's stupid interpretation of the concept of "alphabetic order", I gave another chance to moc, and it turns out it ain't so bad. The search function sucks HARD, but I found a file manager that doesn't choke on large folders (pcmanfm), so I just use that to search and add songs (I set the action for ogg and mp3 to "mocp -a").

One thing I really like about moc is that I can have my playlist on the right tab, and the whole folder on the left, so I don't have to erase the playlist when I want random play on the whole music selection.

One thing I don't much like is that I can't add albums easily, I have to go down-enter-down-enter-down-enter in pcmanfm until I've added all songs in the album. Oh well...

Oh, and CPU time is now 10%. What changed from before is that I'm running Debian Squeeze now (instead of Ubuntu 9.04). Don't know exactly what's responsible for the increased efficiency, but I like it better this way.

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Old 11-06-2009, 11:15 AM   #10
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One thing I don't much like is that I can't add albums easily, I have to go down-enter-down-enter-down-enter in pcmanfm until I've added all songs in the album. Oh well...
I am not sure if this helps, but in moc you can use shift+a to add the contens of a given folder. If you have your collection organized by author/album/files.mp3 you can add the whole album or even author on a single keystroke.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:59 PM   #11
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have you tried http://mpd.wikia.com

 
  


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