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Old 04-05-2003, 03:09 PM   #1
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Unhappy shutdown failure to do so


Question???? I have a problem with the shutdown sequence in both Red Hat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 on this one particular machine. When I click on shutdown in the signout window of either program it does all what it supposed to do .. etc. sending kill signals etc etc .. I get the printout on the monitor for everything it is doing all the way up to the line that says "power down". That is where it stops, it does not shut down the machine at all, since it does this with two different OS's does anyone have any idea what component could be causing this to occur. On my other machine which also has the RH 8.0 on it the shut down goes without a problem..... H E L P
 
Old 04-05-2003, 03:12 PM   #2
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Check your BIOS settings. I forget the exact thing you have to change but I think it has to do with the 'Power Save' option or something like that.
 
Old 04-05-2003, 03:24 PM   #3
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In response to Crashed_Again.... I had that response from another person too ... I checked my BIOS but the information they gave me [it had to do with the power also] does not appear in the BIOS for this particular board. It is a Soltek SL-75DRV5 KT333 board. I assumed that the information that was being referred to would be under the Power Management Option which is user defined and when I enter it the listings I get are max savings or min savings or user defined. I am pretty sure that the suggestion you are talking about is where the power user option is disabled. Thanks for the very quick response though.
 
Old 04-05-2003, 03:26 PM   #4
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It will also only work if you have an ATX power supply.
 
Old 04-05-2003, 04:29 PM   #5
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power down problem

When you bring down Linux the shutdown script eventually issues a halt command. A plain halt command stops the cpu. halt -p stops the cpu and powers down. Check your shutdown script to see if it issues the halt command that you want. In SuSE 8.1 the final shutdown script is /etc/init.d/halt.
 
Old 04-09-2003, 11:33 AM   #6
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In response...the power supply is listed as AT/ATX so it should be okay. I have the same shutdown indications using two different OS's on the machine in question. Red Hat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 both get all the way to the power down prompt and then stop, nothing happens after that. The same two OS's on my other machine have no problems shutting down at all. Works fine, the two machines are not identical several hardware components are different. Would really prefer not to have to start changing out the internals if I can help it.

NEW problem/question.... this one is in regard to connecting to the internet. I am useing a ActionTec dial up modem which is according to the paperwork that came with it Linux compatable.
It is installed with Red Hat 8.0 OS, I can get a modem active indication [whatever that means] in the device control window, but when I click the web browser icon [mozilla by default] it does not access the web. Am I going to have to go into a virtual window and make command line entries to get this problem to go away or is there another means to tackle it .
 
Old 04-09-2003, 12:25 PM   #7
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For the modem things, post a new thread. Some people who know loads bout modems but not much bout powering down will not read it. Plus it is better for searching.

For the shutdown thing you need to have power management compiled in your kernel (either compiled in or as a module). I had the same prob until i did this. Don't know why it wasn't enabled in the kernel by default on your distro but hey.

HTH

Alex
 
Old 04-09-2003, 01:38 PM   #8
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Take a look at the "Mandrake ACPI Kernel" section in
http://www.lockergnome.com/issues/pe.../20030114.html

It sounds like the same proble you are having.


As for the modem - what is your routing table like?
 
Old 04-09-2003, 01:45 PM   #9
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Before you mess with kernel stuff (you probably have it built in if you use the default kernel) try enabling power management into your BIOS, this is very important if you want linux to power off your computer.

If you have it enabled... well... you are to immerse yourself into a virtually unknown path of the kernel compilation and configuration... at least if you are new to linux

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Old 04-09-2003, 01:49 PM   #10
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david_ross:

I like your signature... like throwing a bomb to kids, eh?
 
Old 04-09-2003, 02:01 PM   #11
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What can I say - I was bored last night! It started of just as the first line then I had an awful thought that a newbie would think it was some of my advice. Hence the disclaimer - I wonder if I can get all the smilies in?
 
Old 04-09-2003, 02:15 PM   #12
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Dale Dorman,

I had the same problem with Mandrake 9. I fixed it by going into the control center and changing the boot options. I set <linux (/boot/vmlinuz)> as the default and it now shuts down on it's own without me having to hit the power button.
 
Old 04-09-2003, 02:33 PM   #13
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Ahhhh....duh..... for David_Ross ... routing table... what is it, where is it, how do I see it.. and after I see it what am I supposed to do with it .... I am extremely new to Linux so you must break it down to the very bottom lines. I can follow instructions very well,,, if I understand them ... heheheh ... and now for ..... Thetargos ... your sense of humor is overwhelming ..okay power management ... both machines that I have installed these two systems on have the same settings in the BIOS for that particular area of the BIOS ... checked them both an they are identical top to bottom ... so the question why does it work on one and not the other ..... hummmm ..... and about the modem again ... okay will post another one for it seperate .... Thanks ... your information will help me .... course not looking forward to playing with the Kernel at all
 
Old 04-09-2003, 02:48 PM   #14
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Is there in your BIOS any option as of "ACPI aware OS" under power management?
 
  


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