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Old 10-26-2019, 03:28 AM   #1
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Question Seconds in MATE panel clock causes system tray items to move.


Hi.

I allow seconds to show in the MATE 1.20.5 panel clock. This causes the items in the notification area to move a bit constantly as the seconds numbers change.

Can anyone figure this one out?

Thanks.
 
Old 10-26-2019, 05:21 AM   #2
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What's the format defined for the display of the date/time? Do the seconds use/have a leading -0-?
 
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What's the format defined for the display of the date/time? Do the seconds use/have a leading -0-?
Hi scasey. Here's a screenshot. It's using the 24h format.
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Old 10-26-2019, 07:15 PM   #4
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I'm using
Code:
<b>%a %d-%b  %R:%S  </b>
as the format for the mate panel clock and have never seen any movement of items in the notification area as a result of the seconds ticking away
 
Old 10-26-2019, 07:25 PM   #5
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I'm using
Code:
<b>%a %d-%b  %R:%S  </b>
as the format for the mate panel clock and have never seen any movement of items in the notification area as a result of the seconds ticking away
Thank you. That’s what I was asking the OP for in #2. OP?
 
Old 10-27-2019, 02:53 AM   #6
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Thank you. That’s what I was asking the OP for in #2. OP?
I see, I misunderstood your question. Here it is:

Code:
%a %e %b %H:%M:%S
I want: DDD DOM MMM TIME (24h)

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Old 10-27-2019, 04:32 AM   #7
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Here is a gif. It's like this even after I deleted the clock (this also deleted the entry in dconf) and I just selected the seconds option by right clicking on the tray icon.

https://i.postimg.cc/G2rLpHFz/vokosc...7-09-30-13.gif
 
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So, the same thing happens every minute if you disable seconds, yes?
Have you tried using a monospaced font for the clock?
 
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So, the same thing happens every minute if you disable seconds, yes?
Have you tried using a monospaced font for the clock?
When I disable seconds from the panel clock options - the clocks stays in 1 place.
How can I change the clock font?
 
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BTW, I no longer see a 'clocks' entry to edit the clock format in dconf.
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When I disable seconds from the panel clock options - the clocks stays in 1 place.
Maybe it extends its maximum width with the seconds.
So you'd need to assign it a new width, wide enough to cover the whole date & time.
And no, I have no idea how to do that on MATE. Maybe you simply can't.

Have you tried a monospaced font?
 
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Maybe it extends its maximum width with the seconds.
So you'd need to assign it a new width, wide enough to cover the whole date & time.
And no, I have no idea how to do that on MATE. Maybe you simply can't.

Have you tried a monospaced font?
Hi ondoho. Here's my font setup in Debian 10 (it's the default setting).
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Old 10-27-2019, 10:00 AM   #13
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So, the same thing happens every minute if you disable seconds, yes? ...
Actually, I just noticed, the clock did indeed move as the minute changed (even without the seconds option) - it happened as 14:51 went to 14:52.
 
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Is there at least a command to put the date before the month? e.g. 'Sun 27 Oct 16:58'?
 
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Is there at least a command to put the date before the month? e.g. 'Sun 27 Oct 16:58'?
Just need to change the sequence of the format
Code:
%a %b %e %H:%M:%S
man date for details of formats.

I'm running Cinnamon. The font seems to be monospace and I don't get any shifting when the numbers change. I think ondoho's right: The shifting is happening on your desktop because the font is a variable-width font.

I couldn't find where to change that on the panel or in the Calendar settings either (I'd like to have it a little larger), yet.

Edit: In "Panel Edit Mode" if I make the panel bigger an check the "let Cinnamon adjust size of text" I get bigger text...still not finding where to change the font on the panel or for the date/time, tho.

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