rpm.exe for Windows

Sigmarsson · 06-27-2015, 12:24 PM

Hello Guys,

I am novice - as you might have ascertain - in RPM software architecture and its dependencies, POSIX requirements etc.

Is there a chance to compile the package manager for Windows ?

Best Regards,
Sigmarsson

John VV · 06-27-2015, 02:01 PM

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Is there a chance to compile the package manager for Windows ?

i can not see MS corporate trying to use Redhat Package Manager( format) for windows software updates

for running on a windows OS

Cygwin has a good package manager in the installer in there "setup.exe"

and MinGW is using the same thing in there "setup.exe
( Bloodshed Dev-c++ has a good package manager for MinGW )

GnuWin32 is using MS Windows installers "setup.exe"

Sigmarsson · 06-27-2015, 02:08 PM

I may want to encapsulate proprietary software into rpm, that is why rpm has glimmered as an alternative. Furthermore there is a need to keep an ever consistent ecosystem on the target host by installing appropriate packages.

frankbell · 06-27-2015, 08:54 PM

I share John_VV's doubts. Linux and Windows are very different beasts under the hood. Linux package managers were created to work with what's under the Linux hood.

You may be able to write something for Windows, but how Windows deals with dependencies is completely different from the Linux way. Indeed, in Windows World, there is no concept of "dependencies" in the Linux sense. The closest thing to that is *.DLL files.

John VV · 06-27-2015, 10:40 PM

then to add to the " DLL HELL " ( if you have been it it then.....)
and not just the ones from Visual studio

ms tends to have a registry entry or a redirect to the updates dll and NOT the old one

you still have the old dll's and a redirect stating to use a new one in a different location
-- MS's hot fixes are a mess

but hay, so are m4 macros in autotools so....

Sigmarsson · 06-28-2015, 02:15 AM

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in Windows World, there is no concept of "dependencies"

Thats the point. MSI designed 20 years ago with a very singular way of thinking and it still has a funny term "prerequisite". ok.

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-- MS's hot fixes are a mess

Yes, perhaps but they improved many things with the Component Base Servicing model (CBS)

Lets assume there is a compatibility matrix among the software packages they could work together on the target system. I.e. this can probably describe every single released package with version range if they are compatible or not.

I was just wondering if I could model this matrix with SPEC files.

TB0ne · 06-29-2015, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigmarsson

Thats the point. MSI designed 20 years ago with a very singular way of thinking and it still has a funny term "prerequisite". ok.
Yes, perhaps but they improved many things with the Component Base Servicing model (CBS)

Lets assume there is a compatibility matrix among the software packages they could work together on the target system. I.e. this can probably describe every single released package with version range if they are compatible or not.

I was just wondering if I could model this matrix with SPEC files.

Well, we've told you we don't think it's possible, but you seem bent on the answer being "yes"...so, feel free to give it a shot. You can find the source code for the package manager, download it, and start from there.
http://www.rpm.org/wiki/Download

John VV · 06-29-2015, 04:06 PM

then have "real fun" getting access to "windows update" source code

and access to the source for those updates
i do not think MS will give you access