rpm command and yast, compatible???

firewiz87 · 11-23-2008, 07:39 AM

If i download an rpm file and use the rpm command to install from CLI, will YAST list the install or will it be unknown to YAST??

pixellany · 11-23-2008, 07:43 AM

If I am not mistaken, YAST is a GUI front-end for RPM. If that's true then YAST should see the result of installing with RPM.

Why not just try it and see?

firewiz87 · 11-23-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixellany

Why not just try it and see?

I will asap.....

After reading a bit... I found that people recommend using

Code:

yast -i

to

Code:

rpm -i

is it only resolution of dependencies that is the problem ???

pixellany · 11-23-2008, 07:58 AM

No clue...

My simple-minded approach: Within any given distro, use only one method of installing packages. For my current system (Arch), that's easy: Pacman has no GUI front-end.

reddazz · 11-23-2008, 12:54 PM

YaST is just a wrapper to RPM, and they store information in the same database. RPM cannot automatically resolve and fetch dependencies like YaST. In modern openSUSE releases, zypper gives you more flexibility and options that using YaST.

firewiz87 · 11-24-2008, 12:53 PM

Now whats the difference between YAST and Zypper?? If i install somthing with zypper will that be reflected in YAST gui??

reddazz · 11-26-2008, 04:58 AM

The package management GUI tools in openSUSE 10.3 and 11.x are simply frontends to zypper (its like apt, urpmi or yum). Zypper is the actual tool that interacts with RPM. You can use zypper in the command line, or simply use the YaST software management gui.

firewiz87 · 11-27-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddazz

The package management GUI tools in openSUSE 10.3 and 11.x are simply frontends to zypper (its like apt, urpmi or yum). Zypper is the actual tool that interacts with RPM. You can use zypper in the command line, or simply use the YaST software management gui.

Thats a little confusing....
So rpm is the command installing things, zypper is the front end to RPM and Yast is the GUI of Zypper???

Please can anybody explain..... i am very confused...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixellany

Why not just try it and see?

By the way things installed using rpm command IS reflected in YAST

reddazz · 11-29-2008, 04:17 AM

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Thats a little confusing....
So rpm is the command installing things, zypper is the front end to RPM and Yast is the GUI of Zypper???

Please can anybody explain..... i am very confused...

That sounds about right, so you are not confused. What happens is that Zypper provides a wrapper to RPM and it also adds features such as repository support and automatic dependency resolution. The reason why Zypper is needed is because it adds features to RPM that were not originally built into it. These features and others are provided by tools such as Zypper, apt4rpm, urpmi, yum etc. YaST basically is just a GUI that tells Zypper (and therefore RPM) what you want to do, but if you use Zypper itself (in the command line) you have access to more options than you have if you use YaST.

firewiz87 · 11-30-2008, 12:15 PM

Thanks for the explanations...... appreciate a lot...