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Old 10-08-2002, 11:43 PM   #1
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redhat 8.0 problems....


I've just installed RedHat 8.0 and I stumbled upon a few problems.

1) I'm using konsole in KDE. All the man pages when viewed in konsole has the "-" character changed to a box character. How do I change that? I've tried to change the font settings, but all of them give me the same problem

2) There's no more kpackage in 8.0 and the Package Management now can't really do much (some RPM is not shown or can't be uninstalled, even though I can do it in console, without using --force/--nodeps command). Is there any other GUI package manager?

3) The most weird thing is that my knewsticker doesn't work fully. It can get the news, etc, but I can't go into preferences. I also can't find the preferences in kcontrol. So I'm left with the default settings & news source. Also, kweather and a few other applets doesn't work (when I add it to the KDE panel, it shows up as an empty space with no logo, wording etc and I can't click on it or whatever).

Has anyone experience this? Or is it that my installation is buggy? I've verified the md5 of my RedHat 8.0 installation CD, and I even reinstalled it again...
Old 10-09-2002, 11:58 PM   #2
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1. Never happened to me.

2. There used to be a kpackage in K> System Tools/Utilities. Check it out.

3. Maybe Evolution could replace that?
Old 10-10-2002, 08:32 PM   #3
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1) Probably it's because I'm using English (GB)... But after changing to English (US), it's still the same....

2) Seems that RedHat 8.0 has removed kpackage and its equivalent gnome version...

3) I don't think evolution can replace that... knewsticker is a KDE applet that sits on the panel, grabbing news from news site every now and then. From searching the google, it seems there are others who experienced this, but no solution yet
Old 11-06-2002, 11:43 AM   #4
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Part 1) solved...

I think I have your answer to part one...

The context I noticed the problem in was ssh'ing from one machine (my RH 7.3 desktop) and doing a "man groupadd" (or any other manpage) on a RH 8.0 system - and I too saw the box characters.

Took a bit of hunting around and a guess from a colleague that what we were seeing was incorrectly translated unicode. My search led back to the Release Notes that RedHat released with 8.0. In essance, the 8.0 installs are using Unicode characters. The workaround is simple and elegant. In your shell, do either:


setenv LANG C



export LANG=C

That sets your character set to the (old) international character set - which should look proper again. The "more correct" value might be something like en_US - which is what the LANG variable used to be for me pre-upgrade. Anyway, I hope that solves your problem.


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Old 11-06-2002, 05:23 PM   #5
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Thank you! I can't even think of that. It works like a charm!
Old 11-07-2002, 01:57 PM   #6
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kweather redhat 8.0

I can't seem to find a way to load kweather
Old 11-09-2002, 08:01 PM   #7
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Fixing the fonts

For those more newbieish than my ertswhile colleagues above, you can edit /etc/bashrc as root and add the:

export LANG=C

line to the bottom of the file. Thereafter, all the terminals you start will have the font correction no matter what user logs in.
Old 11-13-2002, 11:03 AM   #8
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I have also just installed Red Hat 8.0. I have a danish keyboard but would otherwise perfer to have everything in english.

Now I have a couple of questions:

* Where is the proper place to put in a "LANG=en"? How about /etc/sysconfig/i18n? It currently has this line already: 'LANG="en_US.UTF-8"'

* Is "LANG=en_US" or "LANG=C" really preferable? What is the difference? "en" is english, I assume. what is C?

* Is there a good description somewhere of what the LANG stuff does?

* How did I ever get into this LANG situation? I (think I) just did a rather normal "install everything", except for the danish keyboard. The consequences are quite severe - "man ls" followed by CTRL-F in a gnome terminal pseudo-hangs X (or makes it grow to 128MB and creap to a crawl at least). Not being able to see man pages, is quite a problem.... I wonder what is particular about hardigunawan's and my installation that causes this oddity to happen...
Old 11-13-2002, 05:29 PM   #9
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I did a workstation install and even choose the US keyboard (much about everything is default)... Even acrobat reader wouldn't work unless I set the LANG=en_US.

For the kweather (and other applets), it seems to be a bug. See:

From the bugzilla, it says that the knewsticker has been solved in kdenetwork-3.0.4-1, but I can't find the RPM...? Not even in redhat rawhide. Anybody got a clue?


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