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Old 03-20-2001, 06:06 PM   #1
Dicephalous
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I'm really new to using Linux and I figured the best way to learn it is to install it. However, I'm having trouble setting up my partitions correctly. Here's what I have:

Windoze 98 ~ 6GB
Windoze 2000 ~ 6GB
Windoze Storage partition ~ 2GB (for downloads and what not)
(I want a) Linux partition ~ 6GB
Athlon(T-bird) 800
128MB RAM

I'm using a copy of Red Hat 7. When I go through the install, it tells me that it can't partition automatically, and gives me options to insatall it manuall with either Disk Druid or FDisk. I can do either one, but I find Disk Druid a little easier to use. However, when I am creating my paritions, for example, I set the mount point as. Then I make another partition (let's say /tmp), then I click Okay, and it brings up a little error box saying that it couldn't allocate the space for this partition (/tmp) because there was "no free primary" What does that mean? I've done all kinds of searching but can't seem to find a definite answer and no one in my area knows anything about linux. Is this adequate information for anyone to help? Thank you all in advance
Jason
 
Old 03-20-2001, 10:30 PM   #2
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Are you creating a swap partition, a /boot partition and then a / partition. Your swap can be about 100mb, /boot can be about 16mb and the / can fill up the rest. Let us know if that works and gives no errors.
 
Old 03-21-2001, 01:58 AM   #3
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Same Problem

Hello,

I am having the same problem, I have 40 Gig's of space 20 being used by NT and 20 that I want to use for Linux. But when I do the "Custom System" installation, and when using Disk Druid, after creating /boot, and when try to add /home I get the following error:

"There are currently unallocated partitions in the list of requested partitions. The unallocated partitions are show bello, the the reason they were not allocated

/home NO FREE PRIMARY

"

I would really appreciate any help.

Thanks
 
Old 03-21-2001, 03:15 PM   #4
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That didn't work. I still get the same errors no matter what order I create them in. I talked to a friend of mine who thinks he may be able to help, but we won't have a chance to do anything until tomorrow. I'll definitely keep you posted on what happened and how to (if we do) fix it. Thanks for the ideas.
Jason
 
Old 03-22-2001, 05:02 PM   #5
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Smile Finally installed it



Ok, so this is I did and it worked. I now can dual boot NT and Linux.

If you read the previous messages posted by Dicephalous
and my self, we seemed to have be having the same problem.

So this is my set up I have C: drive ( WINNT directory), D: ( programs directory) and E: ( my work directory), when I created D and E partitions, NT created them as primary partitions.

so my table looked like this in Druid.


Name Mount Point Requested Size Actual Type
space
taken
<not set> hda1 1992M 1992M NTFS/HPFS
<not set> hda2 10000M 10008M NTFS/HPFS
<not set> hda3 50000M 50004M NTFS/HPF


The problem is that Linux was confused with hda2 and hda3, so I backed up all my date on those partitions and deleted them, Then I was able to add

/boot
/
/home
/var
/opt/
/usr
/usr/tmp

This might not be ideal but one I installed linux I was able to reclaim my D: and E: drive. Do not delete hda1, that is the WINNT directory, you will lose all your NT stuff if you do that.

If you still need some helo on dual booting with with out using System Commander here is a really good write up on it http://www.benchtest.com/dual_nt_linux.html. I tryed it and it works. Good luck.

Josue


 
Old 03-26-2001, 03:41 PM   #6
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Sorry it took me so long to get back. I eventually did get Linux to work, however, it didn't go like i had hoped. We ended up doing a partitionless install on the same partition as my Windoze 98. It works and coexists hapily with it. I am having other problems with the video (but that belongs on another thread) I may wipe out my hard drive entirely and start over if i can find a way to back up my 2gb partition. The good news is that partition is a loooong way from being full, so that may not be to difficult. Anyway, I believe that "no free primary" refers to only one primary partition per hard drive. Since I already had one (Win98 i believe) druid didn't like it. I may try gluelogic's idea later. But I guess that I'm happy with the install for now. Thanks for your help.
Jason
 
Old 03-28-2001, 09:13 PM   #7
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partitions

Your hard disk can only have 4 partitions. One of which may be an extended partition that will allow numerous logical drives. You may be trying to create too many partitions.

One other thing.. you might not be able to mount NTFS partitions without doing a kernel recomiple. NTFS support is read-only at the moment. There is experimental support for Read-Write but its dangerous.
 
Old 03-29-2001, 12:29 PM   #8
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So what you're saying is that in order to run linux (properly) is to have an almost dedicated hard drive? From what i understand, linux has to have 3+ partitions to itself, that would only leave 1 for other OSes. I've heard of linux installs that use 7 or so paritions. So how is it (the HDD) limited to 4 paritions? Thanks again
Jason
 
Old 03-29-2001, 11:00 PM   #9
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not at all

Putting Linux on its own harddrive is the simplest way to do it, but its certainly not required.

Linux runs perfectly well on a single partition, plus a swap partition. There are some limitations with earlier versions of LILO requiring an additional '/boot' partition if you are operating in a dual boot environment. However, those don't appear to be a problem with the newest Linux distros.

However, you can create an "extended" partition and then create logical drives inside it for a total of up to 15 "partitions".

In your case, it appears you want a Win98, Win2K, and Linux install, also a Windows storage partition. This can certainly be done.

Provided you don't have problems with LILO and the 1024 cylinder limit, I recommend the following:
Install Win98 and the storage partition, both on primary Fat 32 partitions. Install Win2K on a primary NTFS partition. Install Linux on an extended partition (probably /dev/hda4) and use logical drives for '/' and 'swap' (probably /dev/hda5 and /dev/hda6)
You could create more partitions if you would like for different Linux mount points.. but that is not necessary and in your case I can see no benefit.

Install LILO to the MBR, make sure you make a boot disk during the install just in case you have LILO problems, make sure you set your mount points up to get to the Fat32 partitions if you want that. I don't think you will be able to get the NTFS partition without recompiling the kernel for NTFS support. I am not sure about that one.
 
  


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