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05-29-2006, 12:20 AM
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Question about Linux and it's integrated software
1.It's true that on every linux  is all what we need to work and we don't need to install individually each program that we do on Windows OS?  Like: media player, chat or something like that..at least on some linux it's true - like Ubuntu..
2.Can i find on Linux Slackware 10.2 with KDE or other slackware Linux some p2p programs or clients like DC or Torrent which i don't need to download from web? Like going to section where there are list of available soft an i can add/remove aplications but without downloading them from web? If that's true then where they are hidding - i cannot find them.  .but if not then on what linux they are integrated already?..Tnx! 
Last edited by Arcane; 05-29-2006 at 12:22 AM.
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05-29-2006, 12:41 AM
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A Linux distribution can come with a very large amount of software--or none at all. The free distributions will often start you out with a basic system and then provide a mechanism to get more SW from a central server--using the package manager supplied with the distribution.
Note that the application software is never "integrated" into the OS---it is simply included in the distribution.
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05-29-2006, 12:47 AM
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P2P programs are a little risky when it comes to security so they usually do not come as default on most Linux distros. If you don't feel like spending the effort to make about 3 or 4 clicks and possible an 'enter' key on the web, I guess you are out of luck.
regards,
...dkrstr
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buy the way, welcome to LQ. If you need help installing any of the P2P programs you find on goolge, this is the place to ask
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05-29-2006, 12:48 AM
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1)That means that it is real to find those programs like p2p clients in slackware Linux'es? They are shown in that add/remove list or somewhere else? That point about integration i understood, but anyway they don't require web acces or i'm not right?.. 
2)How about giving answer on other part of this topic too? 
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05-29-2006, 12:53 AM
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They are shown in that add/remove list or somewhere else?
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Linux is not Windows
Seems to be a night for clueless people.
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05-29-2006, 12:58 AM
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Linux is not Windows
Seems to be a night for clueless people.
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Well! I didn't mean that! I just said that because otherway you won't understand me! Well..in Linux there are similar list where we see all available software(in case wasn't it some kind of application setup?) - i mean this list with those words not that from Windows.. 
Last edited by Arcane; 05-29-2006 at 01:01 AM.
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05-29-2006, 02:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcane
Well! I didn't mean that! I just said that because otherway you won't understand me! Well..in Linux there are similar list where we see all available software(in case wasn't it some kind of application setup?) - i mean this list with those words not that from Windows.. 
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There are a few different ways Linux can manage software install/update. It just depends upon the distribution you choose. Distros like Fedora Core and SUSE have GUI frontends that show you the list of avaiable packages for install/update. I'm not sure about Slack.
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05-29-2006, 07:58 AM
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Slackware tends to be one of the more stripped down distros. However, there is a very active community producing software packaged for Slackware. Have a look at linuxpackages.net and you'll find quite a lot.
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05-29-2006, 11:49 AM
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Ok! But please answer this: In that Linux are already at least 1 p2p client or it just can't be? Well someone told me that it's impossible to find those programs in that Linux! I wanted to find truth! Plus it's useful info.. And if someone could be so kind: where that list is?;D
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05-29-2006, 12:12 PM
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In Slackware, you can run 'pkgtool' from the command line to view the currently installed packages.
If you are looking for P2P programs, I have used both Limwire and Azureus on my Slackware box. You can just download the source from their website and then build it into your own Slackware package for easy installation/removal. Let me know if you need any help with this.
regards,
...drkstr
Lime Wire - Does not need to be compiled, just unzip and run the binary
Azureus - This is a source package. You will need to compile and install manually (turning it into you own package makes it easier for software management)
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05-29-2006, 12:13 PM
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Well someone told me that it's impossible to find those programs in that Linux!
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Well, someone is just plain wrong. A quick search either here or on Google will bring up a number of p2p clients. Most of the ones you find on Windows have Linux versions as well, such as Limewire for example. Questions about p2p clients have been asked a lot, so searching here would be a good starting place to find a Linux p2p client you like. Furthermore, if you search for p2p clients at linuxpackages.net, you'll likely find several packages you can install on Slackware and use right away.
Last edited by Hangdog42; 05-29-2006 at 12:14 PM.
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05-29-2006, 01:28 PM
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But if someone installs full Linux pack already for that Linux when he instals that Linux then shouldn't those software just have to be there on that slack? Or anyway we must download them from web? I hope you understood me.. 
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05-29-2006, 01:41 PM
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Like mentioned above, it depends on the distro you choose. Some come with alot of preinstalled software, some with none. If you are looking for a "menu to click" to "install and uninstall" software, Ubuntu would be a good choice with its synaptic package manager (I mentioned Ubuntu because you mentioned it in your original post). It shows you a list of software and you can pick what you want to install. But it is advised that you have a broadband internet connection because when you pick something to installed, it will be downloaded from the net.
On a side note, don't judge your software options by that list because that *IS NOT* a accurate summary of all that linux has to offer. You would have to enable some extra repositories to broaden your options.
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05-29-2006, 01:49 PM
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As I also mentioned before, most Linux distros don't come with p2p programs on the install medium and you will have to use the internet to get them. There is only a limited amount of disk space on those CD's and there is an ungodly amount of software available for Linux. Most likely the reason why p2p software didn't make the cut for the install medium is a) because of the minor security threat they present, and b) they probably figured if you can connect to the internet to use p2p software, you could connect to the internet to download it.
regards,
...drkstr
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05-29-2006, 01:55 PM
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Clear! But anyway: in that list those programs are and we can add or remove them from there even if asked for network? I think i now got the idea - in point linux don't came with integrated software but with option to install/uninstall them from one list using network..is that right? I now i sound funny but i'm just learning Linux.. ;D
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