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Old 05-24-2005, 07:54 AM   #1
rincewind
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qmail problem. Works with courier-imap, not with pop..

Hello,

I got this problem that is becomming increasingly frustrating.. (I also think i've RTFM:ed everyting)=)...

Im running a qmail server with courier-imap on a mandrake 10.1 system..
My webmail system works perfectly yet I can't pop the mail..

If I do a
Code:
telnet localhost 110
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
user user@mydomain.net
the telnet window stop respondning...
Yet with my webmail I can login perfectly and read and send mails.....

If I do a
Code:
netstat -map | grep 110 
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:110             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      3501/tcpserver
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:33091         127.0.0.1:110           ESTABLISHED 29322/telnet
Wich indicates that the server is up and listning?! And one is the telnet application that is trying to connect?

Does anyone have any pointers for me that I can follow. Please help=)...

Regards,
-- Rincewind
 
Old 05-25-2005, 12:53 AM   #2
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How are you exactly trying to get your Gmail... I use MDK, KDE, Kmail and have the following setup...

POP3: "pop.gmail.com
port: 995

This should be all that is needed besides user and pw...

KC
 
Old 05-25-2005, 03:14 AM   #3
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Uhm.. Well.. Don't see how that diffrents... But I use Mozilla Thunderbird with the settings:
Server Type: POP Mail Server
Servername: smtp.mydomain.net
Port: 110 (default 110)
Username: user@mydomain.net

... That it I guess...
 
Old 05-25-2005, 08:42 AM   #4
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I think the reason your webmail is working so flawlessly is probably because its based on IMAP and not pop3.

Try running these commands and post the output...

ps -ef | grep readproc
tail -f /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d/current (or wherever yours happens to be)
qmailctl stat (all processes should be up for more than 1 second)
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl (The output will be quite long, but that's ok)
 
Old 05-25-2005, 09:23 AM   #5
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Gah.. this is not good..=)

Code:
[root@smtp log]# ps -ef | grep readproc
root      3482  3213  0 May23 ?        00:00:27 readproctitle service errors: ... file does not exist?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/smtpd: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/pop3ds: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/pop3d: access denied?supervise: fatal: unable to start supervise/run: file does not exist?
root       842 25237  0 16:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep readproc

[root@smtp log]# tail -f /var/log/qmail/pop3d/current
@40000000422759922d244c1c tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@40000000422759932e8fd29c tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@40000000422759942ffba354 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@400000004227599531679734 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@400000004227599632d3ecbc tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@4000000042275997343ed6fc tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@400000004227599835aa9bfc tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@4000000042275999371710c4 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@400000004227599a38822214 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
@400000004227599b39edfa9c tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used


[root@smtp log]# qmailctl stat
/service/qmail-send: up (pid 25920) 92624 seconds
/service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 1778) 1 seconds
/service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 25927) 92624 seconds
/service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 1776) 1 seconds
messages in queue: 0
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
[root@smtp log]#
=(... Whats wrong.. Im panicing over here=)...

Thanks,
-- Rincewind
 
Old 05-25-2005, 10:53 AM   #6
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I suspect you already have another MTA installed on this machine. Maybe Postfix? Sendmail? Exim? Something is already listening on your port 110, which is what the error is trying to tell you.

The readproctitle errors you're seeing in the ps output seem to be some other problem. Maybe permissions on your log files.

How did you install? Did you use a howto of some kind? Lifewithqmail? qmailrocks.org?? If I know this, I will have a basis to start from with troubleshooting these problems.

>> unable to open directory /var/log/qmail

Do you have this directory? What are the permissions/ownerships? This would be the first thing to check in regard to this problem. I think the owner should be qmaill (lowercase L on the end) and group should be root. I'm not 100% sure on that, but try changing the ownerships to that and see if that helps. To clear the readproc errors, you can try "init q" at the prompt. If that doesn't work, just reboot the machine.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 03:53 PM   #7
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I used "Bills Qmail toaster"... The link: http://www.shupp.org/toaster/

And I dont think that I have another pop server running... If I have? How do I notice that?=)

*Feeling like a noob...*
Last edited by rincewind; 05-25-2005 at 04:04 PM.
 
Old 05-25-2005, 08:41 PM   #8
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I'm sure there is a more elegant way, but you could try to examine your "ps" output and see what programs are running. The MTA's I mentioned are some of the most common. You may also try doing... "telnet localhost 25" and see how the server responds. You may get something that indicates what MTA is running.

I would suggest rebooting and then run...

tail -f /var/log/qmail/pop3d/current | tai64nlocal
tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current | tai64nlocal

I'd like to see the output of these. I know we did the pop3 already, but since we didn't pipe this through tai64nlocal, I don't know if those messages are old or what. Also by rebooting, you may clear any problems that were happening before.

Also, after you have rebooted, try the "ps -ef | grep readproc" again and see if the long string of errors is still there. These errors pretty much tell you exactly what is wrong and what to fix. Also running "qmailctl stat" again will show you what processes are not starting up properly. Last time it looked to be your qmail-send and qmail-smtpd processes, so those are what I'd concentrate on first.
 
Old 05-26-2005, 04:24 AM   #9
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Okie.. here goes how it looks after a reboot:
Code:
[root@smtp root]# ps -aux
Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root         1  0.2  0.1  1408  496 ?        S    11:13   0:01 init [3]
root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [migration/0]
root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SN   11:13   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   11:13   0:00 [events/0]
root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   11:13   0:00 [khelper]
root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   11:13   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root        38  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [kapmd]
root        40  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [pdflush]
root        41  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [pdflush]
root        43  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   11:13   0:00 [aio/0]
root        42  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [kswapd0]
root       147  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [kseriod]
root       267  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [kjournald]
root       444  0.0  0.0  1388  372 ?        S<s  11:13   0:00 udevd
root       821  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [khubd]
root      1082  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S<   11:13   0:00 [ata/0]
root      1083  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root      1084  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root      1161  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        S    11:13   0:00 [kjournald]
root      2017  0.0  0.2  2016 1056 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/smtp.mydomain.net.pid
rpc       2051  0.0  0.1  1528  548 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 portmap
mysql     2076  0.0  2.9 90556 13108 ?       Sl   11:14   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/ --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/smtp.mydomain.net.pid --skip-locking
root      2083  0.0  0.1  1460  580 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 syslogd -m 0
root      2091  0.0  0.2  2108 1232 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 klogd -2
named     2297  0.0  0.6 30000 3080 ?        Ssl  11:14   0:00 named -u named
root      2343  0.0  0.3  3204 1424 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
root      2371  0.0  0.1  1988  816 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root      2472  0.0  0.0  1392  436 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/usr/lib/courier-imap/var/authdaemon/pid -start /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2473  0.0  0.1  1860  476 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2478  0.0  0.1  1492  504 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/couriertcpd -address=0 -stderrlogger=/usr/lib/courier-imap/sbin/courierlogger -stderrloggername=imapd -maxprocs=40 -maxperip=4 -pid=/var/run/imapd.pid -nodnsloo
root      2479  0.0  0.1  1860  480 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2480  0.0  0.1  1860  480 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2481  0.0  0.1  1860  480 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2482  0.0  0.1  1860  480 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2483  0.0  0.1  1860  480 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/authlib/authdaemond.plain
root      2485  0.0  0.0  1264  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/sbin/courierlogger imapd
root      2496  0.0  0.1  1492  504 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/couriertcpd -address=0 -stderrlogger=/usr/lib/courier-imap/sbin/courierlogger -stderrloggername=imapd-ssl -maxprocs=40 -maxperip=4 -pid=/var/run/imapd-ssl.pid -
root      2498  0.0  0.0  1264  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/lib/courier-imap/sbin/courierlogger imapd-ssl
nobody    2725  0.0  0.5  5116 2304 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
root      2750  0.0  0.1  1448  604 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 crond
root      2981  0.0  1.8 14440 8308 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP4 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE
root      2984  0.0  0.4  4104 2188 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/advxsplitlogfile
apache    2989  0.0  1.8 14472 8364 ?        S    11:14   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP4 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE
apache    2990  0.0  1.8 14472 8364 ?        S    11:14   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP4 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE
apache    2991  0.0  1.8 14472 8364 ?        S    11:14   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP4 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE
apache    2992  0.0  1.8 14472 8364 ?        S    11:14   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP4 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE
apache    2993  0.0  1.8 14472 8364 ?        S    11:14   0:00 httpd2 -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf -DAPACHE2 -DHAVE_PERL -DHAVE_PHP4 -DHAVE_SSL -DHAVE_SUEXEC -DHAVE_ACCESS -DHAVE_ACTIONS -DHAVE_ALIAS -DHAVE_ASIS -DHAVE_AUTH_ANON -DHAVE_AUTH_DBM -DHAVE
root      3035  0.0  1.3  8784 6276 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
root      3199  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty1     Ss+  11:14   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
root      3202  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty2     Ss+  11:14   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
root      3203  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty3     Ss+  11:14   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
root      3204  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty4     Ss+  11:14   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
root      3205  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty5     Ss+  11:14   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
root      3206  0.0  0.0  1396  412 tty6     Ss+  11:14   0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
root      3207  0.0  0.2  2004 1012 ?        Ss   11:14   0:00 /bin/sh /command/svscanboot
root      3443  0.0  0.0  1424  312 ?        S    11:14   0:00 svscan /service
root      3444  0.0  0.0  1252  228 ?        S    11:14   0:00 readproctitle service errors: ...smtpd: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/pop3d:
root      3445  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise supervise
root      3446  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise qmail-send
root      3447  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise log
root      3448  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise qmail-smtpd
root      3449  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise log
root      3450  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise qmail-pop3d
root      3451  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise log
root      3452  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise qmail-pop3ds
root      3453  0.0  0.0  1260  280 ?        S    11:14   0:00 supervise log
qmails    3455  0.0  0.0  1436  344 ?        S    11:14   0:00 qmail-send
vpopmail  3456  0.0  0.1  1456  460 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -H -R -l 0 -x /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 20 -u 89 -g 89 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /bin/true
vpopmail  3458  0.0  0.0  1284  284 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -l 0 -R -H -v -u89 -g89 0 995 /usr/sbin/stunnel -f -p /var/qmail/control/servercert.pem -l /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup -- qmail-popup smtp.mydomain.net /home/vpopmail/bi
vpopmail  3461  0.0  0.0  1284  292 ?        S    11:14   0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -l 0 -R -H -v -u89 -g89 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup smtp.mydomain.net /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
root      3473  0.0  0.0  1412  304 ?        S    11:14   0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/
qmailr    3474  0.0  0.0  1412  304 ?        S    11:14   0:00 qmail-rspawn
qmailq    3475  0.0  0.0  1392  296 ?        S    11:14   0:00 qmail-clean
root      4975  0.0  0.3  5940 1672 ?        Ss   11:19   0:00 sshd: root@pts/0
root      5042  0.1  0.3  2588 1596 pts/0    Ss   11:19   0:00 -bash
qmaill    5208  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        Z    11:20   0:00 [multilog] <defunct>
qmaill    5209  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        Z    11:20   0:00 [multilog] <defunct>
root      5210  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        Z    11:20   0:00 [supervise] <defunct>
qmaill    5211  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        Z    11:20   0:00 [multilog] <defunct>
qmaill    5212  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        Z    11:20   0:00 [multilog] <defunct>
root      5213  0.0  0.1  2432  872 pts/0    R+   11:20   0:00 ps -aux

[root@smtp root]# ps -ef | grep readproc
root      3444  3207  0 11:14 ?        00:00:00 readproctitle service errors: ... file does not exist?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/pop3d: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/pop3ds: access denied?multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail/smtpd: access denied?supervise: fatal: unable to start supervise/run: file does not exist?
root      5851  5042  0 11:22 pts/0    00:00:00 grep readproc


[root@smtp root]# tail -f /var/log/qmail/pop3d/current | tai64nlocal
2005-03-03 19:38:00.757353500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:01.781177500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:02.805020500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:03.828872500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:04.852749500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:05.876533500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:06.900373500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:07.924258500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:08.948052500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 19:38:09.971897500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used


[root@smtp root]# tail -f /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current | tai64nlocal
2005-03-03 17:57:04.142444500 tcpserver: end 6584 status 0
2005-03-03 17:57:04.142449500 tcpserver: status: 0/20
2005-03-03 18:02:59.442280500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:00.467949500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:01.490782500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:02.513301500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:03.535037500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:04.564763500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:05.594465500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used
2005-03-03 18:03:06.623229500 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used



[root@smtp root]# telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp.mydomain.net ESMTP
^]
telnet> quit
Connection closed.
Uhm.. well.. deos this tell you anything?


Hopes this helps someone else with this problem=)..

Regardz,
-- Rincewind

Ps.
Thanks for helping me Donboy,
Ds.
 
Old 05-26-2005, 07:18 AM   #10
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Hey!
Found something out...
Did a
Code:
urpme libpostfix1-2.1.4-2mdk.i586
wich was the only postfix stuff I could find=)... (did a grep "postfix" * */* aso)
Now I can pop my mails...
Yet when I and another person pop the mail at the same time the pop server stops responding (it look to crash)...
It seems that the qmail queue hangs or something?
Does anyone have any directions for me from there..?

Regardz,
-- Rincewind...
 
  


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