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Old 08-16-2015, 02:03 PM   #16
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the mint torrent
HAS NOTHING / ZERO/ NON / NADA/ AGAIN NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!! to do with the pirate bay
--NOTHING!!!!

it is just a torrent
and has ZERO to do with the pirate bay and NEVER DID!!!


and the Pirate bay ALSO dose have things that ARE NOT infringing ( not many but they ARE THERE)
like this 100 percent GPL free and LEGAL!!!!! movie
short film made using Blender
"Big Buck Bunny "
https://thepiratebay.gd/torrent/5421...1080p.Surround



and NEVER !!!! NEVER EVER!!!! download CRACKED Microsoft programs

not just from a torrent but from any online locker
Microsoft "*.exe" are almost alwaws "BAD" from random UNKNOWN people and random unknown sites
Actually I was trying to download the LM 17.2 iso from so many sources that I forgot the source of the one I finally got.

I checked it out one time running as liveDVD. It seemed ok. And the MD5 checksum was a match. If the checksum matches it should be a clean copy right?

Would advise I use this or download again?
 
Old 08-17-2015, 06:54 AM   #17
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Actually I was trying to download the LM 17.2 iso from so many sources that I forgot the source of the one I finally got.

I checked it out one time running as liveDVD. It seemed ok. And the MD5 checksum was a match. If the checksum matches it should be a clean copy right?

Would advise I use this or download again?
Seems fine. Although the original problem here is what you said in your first paragraph which was that you were downloading it from so many sources. I'd advise you not to go crazy with starting download attempts. Instead use the official recommended release mirrors, if you find one that does not work, cancel the download and try another official mirror. Don't try to start torrents or use a torrent site's search engine, likely you'll not get what you were intending to get.
 
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:20 AM   #18
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Seems fine. Although the original problem here is what you said in your first paragraph which was that you were downloading it from so many sources. I'd advise you not to go crazy with starting download attempts. Instead use the official recommended release mirrors, if you find one that does not work, cancel the download and try another official mirror. Don't try to start torrents or use a torrent site's search engine, likely you'll not get what you were intending to get.

Before I read this I tried downloading LM 17 again since maybe the pirate bay copy is bad.

I tried downloading the straight copy from the official LM site. I used Chrome without a download manager. I ran it for hours and it "completed" after downloading 113,000 kb, which is not 1.5 gb it should be.

So I used the torrent link from the official site and opened it with qbittorrent. It took about 5 hours but I got a complete copy 1.5gb.

Even though my downloads improved after changing dns numbers, they still do not seem normal.
 
Old 08-17-2015, 02:49 PM   #19
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again, an actual link to the file that took so long downloading would be helpful?

did you understand the concept that it is advisable to choose a mirror in your country?

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Even though my downloads improved after changing dns numbers, they still do not seem normal.
where did you cange those dns numbers?

what's your overall networking setup? post some config?
 
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:02 PM   #20
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Before I read this I tried downloading LM 17 again since maybe the pirate bay copy is bad.


Even though my downloads improved after changing dns numbers, they still do not seem normal.
When torrenting. Download speeds are completley dependent on whether other people are seeding. The more people seeding the faster the download will be. I can download the exact linux mint .iso you are talking about in about 3 hours or I could go to a torrent site find a download that has a lot of seeders and the download will be complete in 2 hours or maybe an 1 hour. But if the torrent does not have a lot of seeders then the download will be slow. So changing you DNS does not have anything to do with the slow download. So maybe that's why your download speeds do not appear as normal?


Also note that when downloading such a huge file your network takes a hit. In my experience sometimes some other devices connected to my network lost their connection or the download/upload speeds and latency were disasterous. So it is best to torrent when you know no one else will be using the network. But some torrent apps have settings that limit the amount of network that the app takes. So you can torrent and let other users on the network also browse, but the torrent will download slower.

If you want faster downloads with qtbitorrent I suggest you search in your favorite search engine "Optimizing qtbittorent" Depending on your network, your network card, what devices are connected to the network etc. it may have a great affect or your speeds will still be low.

If you are looking for a fast and reliable server try this one from the uni of maryland

https://mirror.umd.edu/linuxmint/images/stable/17.2/

It is very fast for me and I am in Illinois, thats almost 800 miles away. If you are not in the US then forget about that mirror.

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Old 08-19-2015, 12:27 PM   #21
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again, an actual link to the file that took so long downloading would be helpful?
As I may have mentioned, I tried so many ways and sites to download that I cannot remember clearly but I think I used pirate by

https://thepiratebay.gd/search/linux...%2017.2/0/99/0

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did you understand the concept that it is advisable to choose a mirror in your country?
Yes, I did but the closest sites were Taiwan and China. The last one I tried was Taiwan.


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where did you cange those dns numbers?
The place to change DNS numbers is in properties of the main adapter you are using. Control Panel, Network and Internet, Network Connections. Right click on wireless network connection for my wifi. Then click on ipv4, then properties, then the dns settings page opens.

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what's your overall networking setup? post some config?
Can you please clarify how to answer this question, where to find the data?

Since the first complete version of LM came thru pirate bay I am now trying to download it again through the official site. There are 10 seeders so I should get it soon.

1. I download the first file file from the LM torrent site.

2. I open qbittorent and point it to that file and start the download. This download was tried a few days ago but stalled for some reason, so I did a forced resume.

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Old 08-19-2015, 02:12 PM   #22
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If you want faster downloads with qtbitorrent I suggest you search in your favorite search engine "Optimizing qtbittorent" Depending on your network, your network card, what devices are connected to the network etc. it may have a great affect or your speeds will still be low.
I took your advice here and am working through the techsupportalert advice:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/opti...ttorrent-speed

Some things I cannot quite figure out though.

like it says to check in the command prompt in windows about ports using the command:
netstat -a >c:\log.txt


But windows does not answer that question, only telling me about proper syntax. Screenshot enclosed.

The page also advises a port test, which I have done, showing I am using port 80. But the website says to use ports in a different range. I am wary of changing my ports for fear of putting other internet connections out of whack, and I would have to check with some other service providers about that. I am trying to keep my internet settings at windows default as long as I am in Windows.

"The safest choice is a port in the 49160-65534 range as this will avoid ISP blocks and possible conflicts with other applications. This range used to be 49152-65534, but apparently Vista and Windows 7 grabs some of those ports in between. Vuze-Wiki: Port is Blacklisted

Windows users, if you want to make certain there is no conflict. Go to the command prompt and type in netstat -a >c:\log.txt This will check to see which ports are being used and save a log text file at C:\. Looking at the text file, you will know which ports to avoid."


https://www.sendspace.com/file/pezo70

https://www.sendspace.com/file/lil9h0

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Old 08-19-2015, 03:47 PM   #23
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I took your advice here and am working through the techsupportalert advice:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/opti...ttorrent-speed


The page also advises a port test, which I have done, showing I am using port 80. But the website says to use ports in a different range. I am wary of changing my ports for fear of putting other internet connections out of whack, and I would have to check with some other service providers about that. I am trying to keep my internet settings at windows default as long as I am in Windows.

"The safest choice is a port in the 49160-65534 range as this will avoid ISP blocks and possible conflicts with other applications. This range used to be 49152-65534, but apparently Vista and Windows 7 grabs some of those ports in between. Vuze-Wiki: Port is Blacklisted

Windows users, if you want to make certain there is no conflict. Go to the command prompt and type in netstat -a >c:\log.txt This will check to see which ports are being used and save a log text file at C:\. Looking at the text file, you will know which ports to avoid."
You will only change the port number on that application and it will not change anything on the system. Windows is using port 80 to display web content, now, and if you change the port value on the torrent app, Windows will still use port 80 to display web content.

49160-65534 are safe because nothing uses them so there will be no interference if you will. Each port has something specific to do, so do not change it to anything else, only change it to between the numbers they list. Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_2...r_networking29 to learn more about port numbers.

Realistically, I would only do from where it says speedtest.net downwards. Don't worry about the port numbers or anything else.

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Old 08-26-2015, 01:18 AM   #24
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greenice,
i asked you to post a link to the file on the linuxmint page, for direct download, not torrenting.
but nevermind that now.

you said on various occasions that you experience overall networking slowness, so the problem can't really be torrent related, so why mess around with port settings...

you wrote taiwan & china, looking at the map that means you're from the philippines, or taiwan, or pr of china, or maybe vietnam?
this is very far away from where i live, but at least from china i have heard that the government tends to impose all kinds of restrictions on internet service providers. how is it in the other countries? maybe you should check with your internet service provider (isp).
it is possible that torrenting is seen as something bad, and now you're being "punished" with slow network speeds.
has happened to me, too, it's not necessarily a sign of a totalitarian regime.
alternatively, stop using torrenting completely, uninstall all torrent clients you used (or make 100% sure they're not running in the background), reboot your machine and your router, and those isp restrictions should go away after a while.

another important question:
why did you change your dns nameservers? which ones are you using now, and where did you get them from? and again, why?
from your description it seems you're using networkmanager. could you post a screenshot of the dialogue with the dns settings?
is it like this page?

if you're behind a router, you should check your router settings also.
hopefully you didn't try to change anything there?
 
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Old 08-29-2015, 05:02 PM   #25
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greenice,

it is possible that torrenting is seen as something bad, and now you're being "punished" with slow network speeds.
has happened to me, too, it's not necessarily a sign of a totalitarian regime.
that is possible but my check of countries with internet freedom suggests the country I am in now does not impose such restrictions.

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alternatively, stop using torrenting completely, uninstall all torrent clients you used (or make 100 sure they're not running in the background), reboot your machine and your router, and those isp restrictions should go away after a while.
Torrent clients are themselves download mgrs, so that while chrome download would just stop incomplete, qbittorrent would allow me to resume if the download stalled.

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another important question:
why did you change your dns nameservers? which ones are you using now, and where did you get them from? and again, why?
from your description it seems you're using networkmanager. could you post a screenshot of the dialogue with the dns settings?
is it like this page?

if you're behind a router, you should check your router settings also.
hopefully you didn't try to change anything there?
Screenshot attached.

I have no control over the router here.

The problem cleared up after changing dns. My downloads are not the fastest but LM came in in a few hours (1.5g). Thanks for your help.
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that's a nice windows screenshot, but the question is still why you felt you had to change dns servers, and what sort of dns servers those are (i can't tell by just loking at the numbers).
they could be responsible for slow networking.

what sort of setup is this, where you cannot access the router? not your home computer? that could well also have something to do with it.
 
  


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