Evening:

I'm going to be moving to a different Linux O.S. very soon. I'd like to have thoughts/opinions on certain other O.S.'s such as Pinguy, Fedora, and Linux mint. I've searched the videos and webposts on each of these, but still would like to hear from those who have actually used any of these systems. Anyone care to voice their opinion?
THANX:
Rick

Pinguy and linux mint are great distributions but are not easy to upgrade.

Ubuntu should be best choice for common use as it has biggest community support.

use a current and SUPPORTED operating system
Fedora 17 is past it's end of life
and
Fedora 18 is ALSO past it's end of life
the current is Fedora 20


A few years back i decided to get off the Fedora "roller coaster " and use OpenSUSE as my Main OS

fedora only has a 13 month life span and a NEW and often very different release EVERY 6 MONTHS

if you WANT THAT , fine

OpenSUSE
has a 18 month life span
BUT
only MAJOR version upgrades have big changes ,not minor version upgrades .


12.1 was different than 11
13.1 is different than 12
BUT 12.2 , 12,3 and soon to be 12.4 will not be very different from 12.1

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To: John W:

Thank You for you input. Your response is exactly what I'm seeking. Straightforward, to the point opinions from those who have experience with/have used the program(s). Thanx for the info about Fedora. I was a bit off in what it's last 'version" was/is. I will do some more research.
Take Care:
Rick

I haven't used Pinguy, but Linux Mint isn't easy to upgrade? Huh? That hasn't been my experience.

Anyway, why the move from Ubuntu LTS? What are your reasons? Both Pinguy and Mint are derived from Ubuntu, soooo...

Maybe try these:

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
http://tuxradar.com/content/distro-picker-0

To : JWJONES:

Thanx for replying. First I'll answer your question: Since 10.04 Ubuntu, I've been dis-satisfied with subsequent distros. Many apps /programs not working "out-of-box", finding (or not) fixes, general hassle it's been setting up an O.S that, in my opinion, should be fairly well set-up out-of-box. Let's say I've lost favor with the Ubuntu family of distros since 10.04. #2. You didn't offer any feedback on any other Linux O.S. Care to do so? Please, only refer to what you have had experience with. THANK YOU.
Rick

To John V V:

Excuse me. I read it as a W, until I put my 'eyes" on. Sorry. I agree Ubuntu USED to be easy (10.04 was first experience, and was well satisfied), but later distro's have left me frustrated, and somewhat overwhelmed, at times. The Ubuntu family shouldn't 'fix" what isn't broke! Anyway, when I checked on "Pinguy", I liked what I've read about and one thing in particular...it claims to be "out-of-box" ready!!, and had repaired many apps/programs. THAT got my attention. I'm going to do more research on Fedora 20, Pinguy and Linux mint before I make my choice, but right now I'm favoring Pinguy. Yet, I'm still open to comments/opinions on the 3 distro's previously refered to.
Later:
Rick


Those who can..DO! Those who can't end up being your supervisor.

OK, so... I have tried many, many distros since I started using Linux in 1999. I am currently typing this on Linux Mint 16 (Cinnamon edition, on a ThinkPad T61). I like it quite a bit, generally speaking. Mostly, I like to stick with Slackware. It is simple, predictable, solid, stable, and fast. I don't care for openSUSE, Fedora, or any RPM distros. That's just me, YMMV. I also like Debian, but when I use it, I like to run sid (unstable, which is actually pretty damn stable).

Having said all of this, I am transitioning to using BSD instead of Linux, although I'll probably still run Slackware somewhere. This T61 will get either OpenBSD or PC-BSD, haven't decided yet. I have OpenBSD on an older i386 desktop, and I really like it.

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Afternoon JWJones:

Thanx for the reply...every bit of info can be helpful. That said, I'm not familiar with BSD nor slackware. Looks like I've got some reading up to do! I appreciate your replying.
Rick

Hi Rick, in my years on the Ubuntu forums, most disgruntled Ubuntu users seem to go in one of three directions:

1. Debian if they want more control over the system in a stable environment
2. Arch if they want more control over the system in a a rolling/unstable environment
3. Mint if they want Ubuntu without the Ubuntu-specific stuff like Unity

I personally started with Ubuntu in 2007 and then eventually made my way to Mint after trying many other distros.

Have you tried any of the other *buntus, like xubuntu or kubuntu?

Moving to the 'unity' desktop with 11.04 was not taken well by many ubuntu users, which is why linux mint got a lot of ex-ubuntu users who wanted Gnome 2.X back (linux mint has 'MATE' a gnome 2.X fork as an optional desktop).

Personally, I'd rather deal with debian than Mint (why move to a ubuntu based distro if you arent happy with ubuntu?). Fedora is nice, but I'm far more comfortable with .deb distros than .rpm distros. If you are used to ubuntu, other .deb distros will probably be a much easier learning curve.

'Repaired'? Huh?

Pinguy says its 'out of the box' ready. So do a lot of other *buntu based distros. Its just marketing.

From the little I played with Pinguy, its nothing special. But I've had no major problem installing support for media etc. that isnt supported 'out of the box' with most distros.....

Heh, I'm not saying that your impresions are wrong, and maybe your counting debian tersting/sid as 'stable'. But I doubt you are.

There did seem to be a lot of vocal ex-ubuntu arch users on the ubuntu forums. But they seemed to have a 'ubuntu rocks, but I'm now really good linux user now so I use arch' tone.

Sorry arch users.

Maybe its just that the people who moved to debian testing/sid also left the ubuntu forums, but the arch users for some reason hung around?

I've tried most Linuxes (112 so far). Points that occur to me are

1. Match your distro to the desired desktop. The default GUI is the one with the most users and (importantly) the most developers. The alternatives may be good, or not. Fedora has always been a Gnome distro: KDE is OK but the other versions have missing configuration tools and a horrible program installer. OpenSUSE is traditionally KDE: it does a reasonable Gnome but Xfce often has bits missing.

2. Hardware matters. Any distro will run on a modern computer, but some can be very picky with older models. Ubuntu won't install if the video chip is Intel and not a recent model. OpenSUSE and Manjaro can be fussy, too. I have USB speakers, and Debian-based distros other than Mint and Pinguy require at least one file in /etc to be manually altered (and try finding documentation about it!)

My current recommendations are
Mate: Mint; PCLinuxOS for rolling-release; Point or Salix for high-stability
KDE: OpenSUSE; PCLinuxOS or SolydXK for rolling-release; Mepis or Salix for high-stability
Xfce: Lite; SolydXK for rolling-release; Salix for high-stability
I've reviewed all of these on this site.

To : snowpine:

I appreciate you responding. Very good and useful information which I will employ when I make my decision on which distro I will use. Any time you have information you feel is pertinent to my query, I'd welcome you input. THANK YOU

To: cascade9:

Hey, again! Yes, Ive experienced Ubuntu 12.04(currently using), 12.10 U, 13.10 U. Xubuntu 12.04 and 13.10. At first I was satisfied with X12.4, but after moving on to other O.S's then coming back to X12.04distro's., well, let's say I've lost favor with it and the subsequent O.S.'s I've tried. As you've replied to many of my posts, you should understand. As far as the "claims" of PINGUY, you're correct in stating any distro will say it's "OOBR"!! I'll tell you what has grabbed my attention concerning PINGUY. There's a youtube video titled 'MUM TRIES PINGUY".I liked what was presented. Perhaps, if you should watch it, you'd like to comment? That is where I got info that "PINGUY" has "fixed" certain programs. As always, Thanx for replying/presenting info. Every bit helps towards a more informed conclusion.MY APPRECIATION:

To: DavidMcCann:

I appreciate you responding. Points well taken!! Consequently, these points will be taken into consideration when ultimately deciding on my next disto. Any other information you'd care to pass on regarding any O.S will be duly noted. THANK YOU!

69Rixter
that is common

i normally DO NOT use "Van Vliet" i use just "VV"


fedora 20 is a good OS
BUT
there is always one and it is a VERY BIG ONE

do some research and YOU decide if YOU do want to have to deal with it

go into using fedora KNOWING exactly what it is and what YOU WANT from a OS

fedora uses rather NEW and often VERY VERY NEW versions of software
and sometimes the software is SO new that most programs NEED to be hacked to build on it

PS this is GREAT !!!!!! if you WANT TO LEARN

you will !!!


but not so great if you really just want to get WORK DONE

fedora is " well fedora"
it is what it is and not what one THINKS it should be .

as to ubuntu derivatives ?
this only ones i have used are Backtrack and Kali
and those two are NOT general purpose operating systems
and are NOT for everyday use ( unless it is your job to use them ...)

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to 69Rixter: You're welcome!

to cascade9: There was a time around 2007-08 when there were many valued and well-respected Arch users on the Ubuntu forums. What happened next is off-topic here. And you know me; of course I mean "stable" when I talk about Debian.