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Old 02-21-2003, 05:17 AM   #1
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Phoenix Browser Question...And 1 other question...


Is there some way, so when you click on a link it opens up a new tab, not an entirely new Phoenix browser...i know you can right click and go Open in New Tab but I'd like it to open straight into a new tab...

the other question is, is it possible to speed up the deleting speed in Slackware...i mean: say if i type this: mplayer /files/Movies/divx/movie.avi

if i place the text cursor at the end of that, and want to get to the beginning, i hold down the Left key, then after half a second or so it'll start to move...and the same thing happens if i place the text cursor at the end of the command and hit and hold backspace, it takes half a second then starts deleting.....the question is, can i speed up the deleting speed/moving speed.....hopefully you get what i mean, i can't remember what the option was called in Windows.

I think thats all the questions atm

Oh, 2 more, is it possible to convert the favorites from IE in windows over to Phoenix?

And, I thought Phoenix was meant to start up a little faster than Mozilla/other browsers, or maybe it was faster in some other area's? It takes about a second or two to start...it feels like ages while sitting there waiting
 
Old 02-21-2003, 06:49 AM   #2
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Is Phoenix for Linux, also? My Linux is on a netless comp so I surf in Windows and use Mozilla, but also Phoenix and Lynx. *g* In Windows, anyway, I middle-click to open a new window, though I can also right click and take it off the context menu. You might have your prefs messed up, though. Checked "Tabbed Browsing" and there should be something about what actions open tabs or new windows.

As far as IE favorites, I didn't have anything to convert. Does a great job on Mozilla/Netscape favorites - I think importing from IE is an option during installation and, under Bookmarks, there's Manage Bookmarks>>Tools>>Import which should do the trick.

Assuming any of this applies to the Linux version.

As far as speed, with Mozilla's quick launch, I don't think Phoenix is all that much faster, either - maybe a second or so.

Dunno about the video thing and sorry if I'm totally off base about Phoenix.
 
Old 02-21-2003, 05:59 PM   #3
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I haven't setup my middle button for linux yet, so ill see if that would work, would've been handy to have it work for my left button though


With that Import Function, it would've worked great, but IE's favorites are a different filetype than what it can convert...IE's are .url, and Phoenix likes .html etc unfortunately.

Yeah, This is the Linux version
 
Old 02-21-2003, 06:04 PM   #4
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To answer the first question, yes, there's an option to open new windows in a new tab instead... but only when you middle click (great feature!)

Phoenix doesn't really start up any faster, but it renders faster most certainly, and uses about half the RAM (for me)
 
Old 02-21-2003, 08:50 PM   #5
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1. check options -> middle button to open new tabs.
2. http://texturizer.net/phoenix/extens...g%20Extensions

Tabbrowser Preferences:
Quote:
This extension adds GUI options to change some of the hidden tab browser preferences available in Phoenix. It also enables "single window mode" by opening links in a new tab instead of a new window.
hope that's what you mean. also check out some of the other useful extensions.

good phoenix link:
http://texturizer.net/phoenix/index.html
 
Old 02-21-2003, 10:03 PM   #6
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thanks heaps! thats exactly what im after! now i have 1 issue...when i click the link to install it, it opens up the page and gives me a heap of mumble jumble, it doesn't seem to install anything...

do i need to install/enable something for it to install automatically?
 
Old 02-21-2003, 10:15 PM   #7
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hmm...try to go to the extension's website.

all the way on the bottom, click the link:
tabprefs.xpi

this brings up an authentication (whether you trust/ want to install this). I havent gotten past this box (since Im not planning on installing it), but it should work fine.

ps. i also got the "mumble jumble" as you call it from the original page: looks like a problem with phoenix handling extensions.
 
Old 02-21-2003, 10:45 PM   #8
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ok...i did that and i clicked Install, now straight after i click install it says this:

tabprefs required file does not exist.

Ok


thats it, it doesn't install any other idea's?
 
Old 02-21-2003, 10:59 PM   #9
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you went to:

http://pages.infinit.net/cdcook/phoe....html#tabprefs

and clicked the tabspref link, correct?


err...I dont know. Mine installed w/o a problem. (Just tried it now).

what version of phoenix are you running?
 
Old 02-21-2003, 11:01 PM   #10
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Code:
NOTE: It is NOT adviseable to use this extension and the "Tabbed Browsing Extensions" simultaneously. This has not been tested.
does this apply to your case maybe?
 
Old 02-21-2003, 11:58 PM   #11
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I said I opened new "windows" with the middle button (actually the scroll wheel that doubles as a middle button) but I meant open new tabs. Sounds like everybody understood what I meant, though. *g*

As far as the garbaged downloads, I'm not sure about the error message but sometimes you have to click on a link and sometimes you have to hold control and click on it. Sometimes you even need to "save target as..." For me it was just a click to install the extensions into Phoenix and Mozilla, but control-click ought to do it if not. - Get the Radial Context menus - they rock. And I have Advanced Preferences, a scroll thing, and Leech with wget and some other stuff. *g* I've got vim and lynx and wget and more on my surfing box, and have four virtual desktops and mouse hover-activated windows - NT is being slowly turned into Linux even without having gotten Linux on here yet.

cuckoopoint's right, too - a lot of the extensions either outright conflict with each other or just don't make much sense in combination.

Anyway - try control-click and load up on the compatible extensions. Yep.

Oh, oh - and try exporting your favorites from IE - it can do that and that'll give you an HTML file you can then turn around and import into Phoenix, maybe.
 
Old 02-22-2003, 02:36 AM   #12
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ok guys, can you tell me how you installed phoenix...all i did was, when i downloaded the package and unpacked it, it was full of files so i chucked them in /usr/phoenix and have just ran it from there...the permissions on this folder are writeable by root only, which is why it wasn't installing for me, but when i installed them as root, they installed, but now i can't seem to activate/use the plugin...it says its Enabled under the Themes & Extentions menu in Preferences, but I can't seem to get it to work...maybe I've installed Phoenix completely wrong...


any idea's?


Edit: I just noticed where we downloaded it from (well, i saw it before but didn't take much notice..) :
NOTE: It is NOT adviseable to use this extension and the "Tabbed Browsing Extensions" simultaneously. This has not been tested

Turns out the Option in preferences is what this is talking about...in the menu its called "Tabbed Browser Preferences 0.1"...is this what that warning is talking about....

well i tried disabling this then installing again, but still when i click links it opens up another Phoenix browser...the package that i downloaded is phoenix-0.5-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz, is this the right one?

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Old 02-22-2003, 02:49 AM   #13
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hehe, now that explains a lot...doesn't it?

ok. from the top. the "stable" is 0.5. I personally recommend the nightly builds - I havent found a problem with them (though I dont upgrade every night). if there are problems just go back a couple days.

1. download build:
http://komodo.mozilla.org/pub/phoeni.../latest-trunk/
2. if you havent done so already, move the file to where you want it permanently. Note: phoenix does not "install" itself, it just runs a script from wherever its untarred.
so, say I copy it to /home/user/downloads/phoenix/
then,
tar xzf ~/downloads/phoenix/phoenix----.tar.gz
cd phoenix
./phoenix

voila!

now, you may want to make your life easier.
edit ~/.bashrc, creating a line:
alias phoenix=/home/user/downloads/phoenix/phoenix/phoenix (or whatver it is to the script)
then, one only has to type "phoenix" to start it.

also, whenever one upgrades to newer build, first:
rm -r ~/downloads/phoenix/phoenix/
and then
tar xzf....
b/c each build unzips itself in the same "phoenix" folder by default....and that'll only cause trouble if the old files are still there.

you can also automate updating with some simple scripts, but if you cant figure it out, let me know.
 
Old 02-22-2003, 03:20 AM   #14
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ok so you suggest untarring it into my home directory, not in /usr/phoenix

hmmm, spose i could do that


EDIT: Still a problem...ok, i extracted it to /home/user/programs/
then i went to the above link and installed the tabbed plugin...it said successful, now what do i have to do to actually get phoenix to use it because when i, for example, click one of the above links again, it still opens up a new copy of Phoenix.

I tried going to Tools -> Preferences -> Themes and Extentions -> Extentions -> Selected "Tabbrowser Preferences 0.1" -> Clicked Enable Extention.

But still...that doesn't work...how did you guys get it to actually work?

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Old 02-22-2003, 03:37 AM   #15
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did you try closing the browser. I think you need to restart the program for the extension to take effect. After you restart the program, somewhere in the preferences should be the new list of options.
 
  


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