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Old 01-17-2009, 11:17 PM   #1
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Partial Image Loading with Firefox 3


Firefox 3.0.4
Bluewhite64 12.2

Problem: Most images on sites like pgatour.com and drudgereport.com have images that will display about 1/3 of the image while they load. After the images have loaded, the images go blank, i.e. totally black. I don't have any firewall, adblock programs or anything else installed that should be causing this problem. I've even followed the guide on mozillazine.org * for diagnosing problem images and those procedures do not solve my problem. All of the about:config settings are the defaults so I'm stumped. The only extension is DownloadHelper which I temporarily disabled to no effect. However, I do have a lot of plugins, e.g Mozplugger, gxine plug-in, mplayerplug-in, Scalar Vector Graphics, xineplug-in 1.0.2 ....

* http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_...ns_do_not_load

P.S. I do have clamav installed. Could my settings for clamav be causing this problem?...

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Old 01-17-2009, 11:37 PM   #2
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I have seen this if you use the"nv" rather than the "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf.

You have an nvida card?
 
Old 01-17-2009, 11:50 PM   #3
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I have seen this if you use the"nv" rather than the "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf.

You have an nvida card?
No, but I do have an old ATI 9600SE card in this half-height machine. I used to have the ATI Catalyst driver installed, but I removed it and currently use just the open source radeon driver. Maybe, I'll try the Catalyst driver again when the next version is released if another avenue of investigation doesn't arise in the meantime.

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Old 01-17-2009, 11:51 PM   #4
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this may sound strange but do you have gimp installed. If yes then not sure but gimp does alot of raw image plugins for alot of linux. I have been to both the websites and everything works good. Many of those pictures are not picturse but flashplayer videos flash and java was all on those websites. do you have them installed.
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ test flash only not shockwave
http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml test java.
this will cause some of this to happen.

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Old 01-17-2009, 11:59 PM   #5
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this may sound strange but do you have gimp installed. If yes then not sure but gimp does alot of raw image plugins for alot of linux. I have been to both the websites and everything works good. Many of those pictures are not picturse but flashplayer videos flash and java was all on those websites. do you have them installed.
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ test flash only not shockwave
http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml test java.
this will cause some of this to happen.

Yes, GIMP 2.4.7. BTW, I should have mentioned that I also have Adobe's 10d21 64bit flash plug-in installed too. The demo for the flash player works perfectly. I have jre 6u11 installed and javascript and java enabled in Firefox, but I don't see the Dancing Duke. Time to hit the rack and dream on this problem a bit. I'll check back tomorrow.

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Old 01-18-2009, 12:52 AM   #6
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just from this link it is weird. if I google it and go there the duke is there but if I copy the link and paste it the duke is not there lol. Weird.

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Old 01-18-2009, 03:26 PM   #7
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Duplicate ....

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Old 01-18-2009, 03:30 PM   #8
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just from this link it is weird. if I google it and go there the duke is there but if I copy the link and paste it the duke is not there lol. Weird.
My java installation doesn't even display the duke from google. hehehe

BTW, this page has another tester program for java...
http://javatester.org/version.html

Oh well, this 64bit platform probably won't work correctly with java until Slackware/Bluewhite64 updates the JRE package to 6_12.

However, my main problem, i.e. partial loading of images, i.e. jpg, continues from some sites... crazy.
 
Old 01-21-2009, 09:40 PM   #9
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Although this thread is NOT about java and flash plug-ins or Bluewhite64, I do want to state that a new package of JRE version 6u12 for the 64 bit OS, Bluewhite64, has been released which includes the java plug-in for Mozilla browsers. Bluewhite64 now has 64 bit flash and java plug-in support for FireFox.

I'm still searching for the solution to the problem with partial image loading... Frustrating to say the least.
 
Old 01-29-2009, 09:44 PM   #10
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Yep, Problem Related to Open Source Radeon Driver

I just installed ATI's proprietary driver, Catalyst 9.1 fglrx, and the problems vanished. Previously, I had installed the ATI's proprietary driver, but had removed them via the /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh script. Something went wrong somewhere. IIRC, the open source radeon driver used to function properly... I don't know exactly. Anyway, the only way to prove it would be uninstall both fglrx and the open source radeon drivers along with possibly Mesa and then reinstall the original open source radeon drivers to see if the problem remains. Maybe, in the future ... if so I'll return here and post the results.
 
Old 02-22-2009, 07:11 AM   #11
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A FireFox Mess

When I reverted to the open source radeon driver, the problem returned. This problem is related to both the open source radeon graphic driver and FireFox. Period. I don't have this problem with Opera or Seamonkey with the open source driver. I don't have this problem with FireFox when using ATI's fglrx driver. The folks at Mozilla need to take a real long look at this problem because the internet is filled with users affected by this bug... The time for excuses has passed. I've tried nearly every trick or suggestion from running FireFox in the safe-mode to creating new profiles, etc. Nothing has worked except switching to the fglrx driver.

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Old 02-23-2009, 08:33 PM   #12
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hi try somehing for me go into your /home/username/.mozilla /firefox and delete it this will make Firefox run a search for helper programs to build it.s ini. Back up your password in Firefox first. I just want to see why it is not loading all of it's helper programs. and opera and seamonkey are.
another way is to download Firefox from Mozilla and run it from just that folder without installing.

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Old 02-23-2009, 09:42 PM   #13
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Eureka!

I found the answer to the blasted problem, but I don't have a clue why. Actually, the solution doesn't make much sense at all. Nowhere has this solution been mentioned so it's imperative that I place it here so another poor soul afflicted by this bug might have another option to try. For another reason unreleated to this thread, I decided to update the radeon driver from the git repository. I was instructed to download both the open source ati driver and the drm module so I could build and install both of them as one piece. I built the drm module first and installed it. I then tried to compile the open source radeon driver, but it aborted with an error so I decided to skip it. Only later did I realize that updating and installing the drm.ko module FIXED the damn partial image loading problem with Firefox! I actually shut the system totally down to be sure, because I thought this fix was simply a fluke. It's not. Now, Firefox is loading images perfectly. What does the drm.ko module have to do with image loading with Firefox? Only Mozilla.org really knows the answer...

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Old 02-23-2009, 10:31 PM   #14
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tpreitzel read this this is a kernel ati card issue and it seems the bleeding edge firefox uses some direct rendering for the stuff. you must be 3.05 and up.

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Old 02-23-2009, 11:22 PM   #15
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tpreitzel read this
this is a kernel ati card issue and it seems the bleeding edge firefox uses some direct rendering for the stuff. you must be 3.05 and up.
Actually, I initially used Firefox 3.0.4 with Bluewhite64 (64 bit Slackware clone) and was still having the problem. It's close enough to 3.0.5 though. * I'll check out the link. For historical reference, I'm currently using a self-compiled version of Firefox 3.0.6. Thanks for the link and your time... I appreciate it.


* In retrospect, I even downgraded Firefox to exactly 3.0 because Bluewhite64 had packages on their website for 3.0 when it was initially released. The problem was even present with 3.0.

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