LinuxQuestions.org
Latest LQ Deal: Latest LQ Deals
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software
User Name
Password
Linux - Software This forum is for Software issues.
Having a problem installing a new program? Want to know which application is best for the job? Post your question in this forum.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 03-03-2014, 12:43 AM   #1
Gregg Bell
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: Illinois
Distribution: Xubuntu
Posts: 1,990

Rep: Reputation: 175Reputation: 175
Oracle VM Virtual Box or VMWare player?


Newbie here. Just trying to read this DRM ebook I got in my Windows computer in Linux. Heard all kinds of wacky-sounding ways of doing it, but getting Oracle VM Virtual Box or VMWare Player seemed reasonable. I was reading however that VMWare Player requires a lot of space and my computer is only 1.2 GB memory and only like 36GB Hardrive. Any suggestions which of the two (if either) would be good for me. Running Xubuntu 13.10. Thanks. P.S. And I would only be reading the book on the computer. No other programs running simaltaneously.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 02:34 AM   #2
ericson007
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Japan
Distribution: CentOS 7.1
Posts: 735

Rep: Reputation: 154Reputation: 154
I would go with vmware if those are the only 2 you are considering.

Using virtualbox is like throwing away 50% of your resources that could be better used with the more efficient vmware player.

If you want to stay open source, kvm is the way to go.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-03-2014, 05:26 AM   #3
snatale1
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, Virginia, US
Distribution: Ubuntu 20.04 / Manjaro
Posts: 439

Rep: Reputation: 48
I've run both and prefer vbox. I've never had resource issues as previously stated.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-03-2014, 06:11 AM   #4
ericson007
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Japan
Distribution: CentOS 7.1
Posts: 735

Rep: Reputation: 154Reputation: 154
True that you may not have noticed. Try some real number crunching then do a benchmark, what you find may surprise you, alternatively, check out the phoronix benchmarks where they did the crunching. You willsoon notice vmware xen and kvm are much closer to baremetal performance than vbox
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-03-2014, 04:04 PM   #5
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 20,421

Rep: Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247
Try qemu, it can use some of your swap file. The other two are limited to actual ram.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-03-2014, 05:06 PM   #6
vwtech
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2007
Distribution: Fedora, Oracle Linux & Centos
Posts: 197

Rep: Reputation: 26
VirtualBox/VMware Player:
Would pick VirtualBox on a laptop or PC that's not going to be powered on 24/7.
Had my laptop running Fedora with Win7 in running under VirtualBox.

Also ran KVM for a while:
Would use KVM for a PC/server that would be on 24/7.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-03-2014, 07:24 PM   #7
byau
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 33

Rep: Reputation: 5
If you are concerned with licensing, I think Virtualbox gives you a lot fewer restrictions than VMware player
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-04-2014, 12:33 AM   #8
Gregg Bell
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: Illinois
Distribution: Xubuntu
Posts: 1,990

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 175Reputation: 175
More info

Thanks all.Perhaps I should have been more specific why I'm considering Oracle Virtual Box and VMWare Player etc. In Windows (I'm a writer making my own ebooks) my process was MS Office Word 2003 to make a .doc. Then save it there as "web page filtered" to make an .html. Put the .html in Sigil to make a .epub. Then that's fine for the Nooks etc. But for Kindle I put the .epub in Kindle Previewer to make a .mobi. I haven't found equivalent programs in Ubuntu so it's like, how am I going to do all this stuff in Linux? People have suggested Wine patching over and all kinds of super complicated ways of getting Sigil etc. But for a non-techie like me I thought Oracle Virtual Box or VMWare Player would work better. And are they free? And I didn't even know open source things existed in this area. Any more suggestions considering this additional info? Thanks much!

Last edited by Gregg Bell; 03-04-2014 at 12:40 AM. Reason: adding
 
Old 03-04-2014, 10:19 AM   #9
TB0ne
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Distribution: SuSE, RedHat, Slack,CentOS
Posts: 23,396

Rep: Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627Reputation: 6627
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg Bell View Post
Thanks all.Perhaps I should have been more specific why I'm considering Oracle Virtual Box and VMWare Player etc. In Windows (I'm a writer making my own ebooks) my process was MS Office Word 2003 to make a .doc. Then save it there as "web page filtered" to make an .html. Put the .html in Sigil to make a .epub. Then that's fine for the Nooks etc. But for Kindle I put the .epub in Kindle Previewer to make a .mobi. I haven't found equivalent programs in Ubuntu so it's like, how am I going to do all this stuff in Linux? People have suggested Wine patching over and all kinds of super complicated ways of getting Sigil etc. But for a non-techie like me I thought Oracle Virtual Box or VMWare Player would work better. And are they free? And I didn't even know open source things existed in this area. Any more suggestions considering this additional info? Thanks much!
If all you really want to do is E-book creation, then load Calibre for Linux, and you're done. It already DOES conversions to epub and mobi, and Libreoffice can easily open Word 2003 files, and save them as HTML, which can then be imported to Calibre, and exported as ebooks.

It's always better to state your end goal, rather than seeking a hugely complicated workaround, because all you know is Windows. Chances are, there are Linux programs that do exactly what you're looking to do already, so rather than thinking about how to force a Windows program to run, look for the Linux equivalent.

Last edited by TB0ne; 03-04-2014 at 10:20 AM.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-04-2014, 11:59 AM   #10
byau
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 33

Rep: Reputation: 5
You should be able to use vmware player free for something like that for free, and I would choose that over Virtualbox. I think it's a bit easier and also more lightweight.

(by the way... You can always try both I think both are not hard to use at all. And see which one you like better. )

Good luck!!!
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-05-2014, 02:58 AM   #11
Gregg Bell
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: Illinois
Distribution: Xubuntu
Posts: 1,990

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 175Reputation: 175
Quote:
Originally Posted by TB0ne View Post
If all you really want to do is E-book creation, then load Calibre for Linux, and you're done. It already DOES conversions to epub and mobi, and Libreoffice can easily open Word 2003 files, and save them as HTML, which can then be imported to Calibre, and exported as ebooks.

It's always better to state your end goal, rather than seeking a hugely complicated workaround, because all you know is Windows. Chances are, there are Linux programs that do exactly what you're looking to do already, so rather than thinking about how to force a Windows program to run, look for the Linux equivalent.
Thanks TBone, I've been doing just what you've suggested (finding Linux equivalents and superiors!) and calming down. I already have Calibre and LibreOffice and Calibre's ebook editor. I'm thinking I can go Linux all the way. Appreciate it.
 
Old 03-05-2014, 06:25 AM   #12
TobiSGD
Moderator
 
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148
Blog Entries: 2

Rep: Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870Reputation: 4870
Seeing your system specs (only 1.2GB of RAM and 36GB of harddisk space) I assume that you use an older computer. Depending on which CPU is in that machine it is likely that none of the VMs will run a Windows OS with reasonable speed. Please give us an update about your CPU.
If your CPU does not support hardware virtualization it really comes down to three solutions, from which I only two can recommend if this is for your work:
- Install Windows and go with your usual workflow.
- As recommended by TB0ne, try to find native Linux solutions that fit your workflow.
- Unrecommended: Try to get your Windows software working with Wine.

If possible I would always recommend the second solution, but there are situations (I don't know much about creating eBooks) where the first solution is the only reasonable one.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 03-05-2014, 03:23 PM   #13
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 20,421

Rep: Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247Reputation: 3247
How do you read the book in Windows? What app?
 
Old 03-05-2014, 04:16 PM   #14
Gregg Bell
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: Illinois
Distribution: Xubuntu
Posts: 1,990

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 175Reputation: 175
thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
Seeing your system specs (only 1.2GB of RAM and 36GB of harddisk space) I assume that you use an older computer. Depending on which CPU is in that machine it is likely that none of the VMs will run a Windows OS with reasonable speed. Please give us an update about your CPU.
If your CPU does not support hardware virtualization it really comes down to three solutions, from which I only two can recommend if this is for your work:
- Install Windows and go with your usual workflow.
- As recommended by TB0ne, try to find native Linux solutions that fit your workflow.
- Unrecommended: Try to get your Windows software working with Wine.

If possible I would always recommend the second solution, but there are situations (I don't know much about creating eBooks) where the first solution is the only reasonable one.
Thanks. I've just added to the memory so that this computer is now 2GB. Not sure what you're asking about the cpu usage. Here's a screenshot of what the task manager shows right now.

And I've turned this computer 100% Xubuntu. The old computer was XP so I don't want that, but is there a way to get,say, Windows 7 on this computer? Thanks.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	taskManager.png
Views:	15
Size:	220.6 KB
ID:	14890  
 
Old 03-05-2014, 04:18 PM   #15
Gregg Bell
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: Illinois
Distribution: Xubuntu
Posts: 1,990

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 175Reputation: 175
thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by jefro View Post
How do you read the book in Windows? What app?
Usually ADE 2.0. Sometimes Sony Reader Library. Sometimes Kindle for PC.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
RHEL Hyper visor Instillation on VMware Workstation / Oracle Virtual Box mail4vijay Linux - Virtualization and Cloud 5 10-22-2013 01:01 PM
Issue faced while installing Linux in virtual machine in Oracle virtual box ravisingh1 Linux - Virtualization and Cloud 5 04-07-2013 11:42 AM
oracle virtual box srinivasmmdl Linux - Newbie 3 10-07-2011 07:37 PM
Oracle VM Virtual box on fedora 14 cardineau Linux - Virtualization and Cloud 12 04-01-2011 12:12 PM
Can't connect Oracle on Fedora Virtual Box aniceto Linux - Newbie 7 03-17-2010 05:49 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration