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Old 11-16-2013, 05:18 AM   #31
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For the record, can you at least share how you know this so others can verify.
 
Old 11-16-2013, 10:42 AM   #32
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For the record, can you at least share how you know this so others can verify.
You need a firewall that will report back to you everything that is going on. kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe does the job.

HOWEVER, one must remember that many of these outfits that write utilities and anti-virus/whatever software for m$-windows are in bed with mickey$oft, so you might have a firewall that is purposely written not to show the user everything that is going on with his computer.
For example, AVG will report the Kerio firewall is a rootkit. It is not and if you are going to use AVG you will need to put all of Kerio on the AVG exception list. If you use a custom "hosts" file to prevent sites from tracking your "habits" Kaspersky will report it as a trojan. It is not. And so on...

Back to the chrome clone. I just went back over to the m$-windoze partition and ran the chrome clone/opera 17.xx again. This time, instead of sitecheck.opera.com it came up with, nuq05s01-inf18.1e100.net. I "denied" it and that was the end of being able to browse with opera-17. I went into the Kerio firewall administration, deleted that "denial" and tried again. This time it came up with a different site it wanted to report to, but on being denied, the result was the same, i.e., you cannot get out with opera-17 if you don't let it track you.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:19 PM   #33
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Don't know if this is relavant but it seems like it is.

From: http://superuser.com/questions/75841...rts-open-to-it

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It's Google Safebrowsing feature in Chrome.

That feature checking sites and tell you if that site is "Attack Site"

sinni800: @MicTech, Google has all it's search servers under the 1e100 domain. I know this is kind of late but w/e. It does not ONLY relate to google safe browsing.
If Opera is now based on Chrome or Chromium, then that may explain why it has this.
 
Old 11-16-2013, 08:03 PM   #34
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They called it "safe browsing" but it is little more than another form of tracking your movements on the Internet. If you look at the configuration (about:config) of the Tor Browser, which uses Firefox, they disable "safe browsing" by default as part of making browsing as secure from prying eyes as possible.
In Opera 12.16, you have the option of turning off "safe browsing" by removing the check mark in the box labeled, "Enable Fraud and Malware Protection," under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Security.

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Old 11-22-2013, 09:15 PM   #35
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...If Opera is now based on Chrome or Chromium, then that may explain why it has this.
I have set up Chromium 33.0.1717.0 in Linux and m$-windows and both versions allow you to turn off,
"...phishing and malware protection." As the chrome-clone/Opera is now based on Chromium, why is that option not available?
 
Old 12-19-2013, 10:56 AM   #36
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After many months of trying various browsers in an effort to find a suitable replacement for the "old, real" Opera, I've settled on the SeaMonkey Browser.
 
Old 12-19-2013, 05:46 PM   #37
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I'm still using the old Opera...
 
Old 01-22-2014, 05:52 PM   #38
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From this week's DistroWatch Weekly feature story:

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?is...140120#feature

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...Unfortunately, I come here not to praise Opera, but to bury it. Early in 2013 the Opera team announced they were going in a new direction, switching from their Presto engine to WebKit. Since then, the once open-source friendly company has apparently stopped releasing updates for FreeBSD and GNU/Linux platforms. Whether this focus on other operating systems is a short-term or long-term situation, I feel as though the writing is on the wall: it is time for me to switch to another web browser...
 
Old 01-22-2014, 06:10 PM   #39
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It is sad. I know things which are "too good to be true" usually are not true. But many things which are good seem to disappear as well. Certain airlines, restaurants, KDE 3 and Opera-as-it-was.

Opera had a number of outstanding features, like:
  • Selective blocking of contents per site
  • Speed dial settings which would synchronize over the internet between machines
  • Bookmarks which would synchronize automatically between machines
  • Passwords which also synchronized
  • ...and all this without installing one single extension

Moving, shifting, bouncing, rolling and jumping graphics on web sites make me insane. Some sites even had a 80-20 distribution between advertisements and content. Only with Opera I could enjoy them.

Then, I use 4 or 5 different machines every day for regular work. Synchronizing bookmarks, speed dial and passwords were a huge productivity gain.

It seems that Chrome offers this as well. But you have to install extensions. You have to be logged in. Google wants to determine the personality you use to login. Google wants to show which youtube videos you want to see when you don t want to see any.

Is there any browser which offers the Opera conveniences?

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Old 01-22-2014, 09:53 PM   #40
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Not sure about syncing passwords/bookmarks/etc across multiple machines since I do that with exports, but Firefox can be set up to do all these things, although like Chrome, it requires plugins to do so.
 
Old 01-23-2014, 09:50 AM   #41
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Yes. It took the Opera team a lot of (bad) work ... defective release after defective release after another ... to slowly but permanently put their business-venture into the ground.

When their money source dries up, from wherever it is coming now, Opera will be no more.

Sometimes, I suspect that the project was effectively murdered, by another company (and I can offer no particular names here) that wanted to eliminate its prime competition in a rather nefarious but clever way. Today, a company that utterly destroyed a browser that many people did want, and did use, is burning-up its remaining cash on a desktop environment that nobody wants or will use. And there is no business-value left in the Opera name. The cash will burn away, the smoke will clear, and ... that will be the end of it.

It is very, very sad. In better hands, and at the right time, Opera could still be what it once was. But, like everyone else, I can't wait around to find out.

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Old 01-23-2014, 03:48 PM   #42
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Very well said!


(BTW, it is, most likely, google who is behind it. They took a page right out of mickeysoft's playbook).
 
Old 01-24-2014, 03:57 AM   #43
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Not sure about syncing passwords/bookmarks/etc across multiple machines since I do that with exports, but Firefox can be set up to do all these things, although like Chrome, it requires plugins to do so.
Chrome, Firefox and Seamonkey all have similar sync features built in.
 
Old 01-24-2014, 06:44 AM   #44
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Chrome, Firefox and Seamonkey all have similar sync features built in.
Thanks for the pointer, gradinaruvasile and Timothy Miller.

In Chrome I have never been able to get speed dial synchronization working. You have to install plugins or extensions, have Google identity and it simply doesn't work. Maybe it has to do with different versions, or Google's own wisdom to know better what I want to see on my speed dial page. And having a Google account leads to other problems again: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...le-4175492215/

I have looked up the Firefox Howto on this feature and it looks promising. Although I don't recall I have seen speed dial sync, I did see bookmarks sync. Unfortunately Firefos is not available for my version of Debian on my main machine (Squeeze).

In Opera it just worked. Across Debian versions, across Opera versions. Once I created an Opera account. For each new installation I simply enter my credentials and lo! there were all my speed dials and bookmarks.

It is not that I am too dumb to find out a more complicated way, or to install extensions. But everytime when I install a new machine I can do without additional effort to get those things right.

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Old 01-24-2014, 06:54 PM   #45
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Firefox is just renamed Iceweasel and with a different icon (both changes due to Trademarks) in Debian. There's the exceedingly ancient v3.5 in Squeeze, or the not quite so ancient, but still highly outdated v10 in backports.

As far as all features and plugins, it reacts identically to a normal Firefox install.

Debian, if you have issues with the google tracking, also has Chromium-browser which is the FULLY open sourced version of an archaic Chrome. Sadly, Wheezy or newer is required to also use the pepperflash-nonfree with it to be able to have an up to date flash plugin.

With the browser choices you have in Squeeze however (unless you manually install), I don't honestly think you're going to find a browser that's really going to work quite like you want. The classic versions offered in Squeeze are missing out on a LOT of features.

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