Opera, Are They Re-Inventing the Wheel?

cwizardone · 04-21-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ruario

Sorry I am not permitted to comment on stuff like that in any detail.

Nothing?

A week? A month? Sometime this century?

cwizardone · 05-17-2013, 11:38 AM

Well, it has been 6 weeks since I first started this thread and I haven't heard a word about the progress of the "new" Opera for the desktop.
Any news? Anyone?

cwizardone · 05-28-2013, 09:42 AM

Opera Next 15 for the desktop has been released, but it appears that, as of the moment, it is only for ms-windows and the Mac. Also, they have split the mail client out as a separate package,

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...-15-0-released

ruario · 05-28-2013, 09:49 AM

Regarding Linux

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...mment108192992

Also for those not aware of what 'Next' is. It is development release. This is not the final.

cwizardone · 05-28-2013, 11:17 AM

Downloaded and installed Opera Next 15 (into Xp-sp3) and ran it for a while.

With all sincerity, I hope this is Opera's idea of a late April Fools' joke.

It appears to be little more than a clone of google-chrome, and a "dumbed down" google-chrome at that.
Sad state of affairs.
PLEASE bring back the "old" Opera.

cwizardone · 06-11-2013, 08:25 AM

I finally buried it, Opera, yesterday after many long years of service. I feel like I have lost an good and old friend.
R.I.P.

cwizardone · 07-07-2013, 11:48 PM

Will there be a Linux version of Opera 15 (the chrome clone)?
If they can put out a MAC version, they can port a Linux version, but if what is going on, is what I suspect is going on, there won't be a Linux version.

cwizardone · 08-02-2013, 10:55 PM

Well, I've used Konqueror, Midori, QupZilla, SeaMonkey, Firefox and Firefox ESR, and at the moment it looks like Firefox ESR is the best compromise to replace Opera.

ruario · 08-03-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone

If they can put out a MAC version, they can port a Linux version

At the UI level Mac and Linux have little in common. Having a Mac version does not benefit the Linux version any more than having a Windows version does.

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if what is going on, is what I suspect is going on, there won't be a Linux version.

Current plan is still to put out a Linux version and some work has been done to this end. Too much conspiracy on your part!

cwizardone · 08-03-2013, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ruario

Current plan is still to put out a Linux version and some work has been done to this end. Too much conspiracy on your part!

That will have to be seen to be believed. Any ETA? The way they are dragging their feet on putting bookmarks back into the chrome clone/opera, it could be next year before we see a Linux version, if ever.
Based on reading the comments on each new update, and with all due respect to you as an individual, opera, the company, has lost all creditability with the vast majority of their users. Those who are hanging on are doing so in, IMHO, the mistaken belief, that somehow the opera management will pull their heads out of their collective a****, i.e., realize their mistake, and get back to business.
I say mistaken, since there is no turning back now that opera has taken and spent google's money.

linuxpokernut · 08-03-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothy Miller

I'm actually surprised they've been able to stay afloat. I used to LOVE their browser, but it's been like 4 years since I could even use it that it's performance has been so awful. Displays pages completely wrong, slow, just awful. The android version was even worse. Anything they do to start it from scratch is an improvement. However, using the same engine as Chrome kinda makes it redundant. Just use Chrome and install extensions to do what you want.

Amen.

cwizardone · 10-22-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ruario

...Current plan is still to put out a Linux version and some work has been done to this end....

Well, it now late October. Any word on when we might see a Linux version? BTW, isn't Chromium licensed under BSD?

cwizardone · 10-31-2013, 09:10 AM

More idiocy from the moronic management at Opera,

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog...-opera-account

I wonder when, if ever, they will acknowledge they are nothing more than
google's Norwegian office.

Knightron · 11-03-2013, 06:53 AM

Wow, this is big news; lol i'm a bit late i know. I very much enjoy Opera as well. I use it on all my computers about equally to Firefox. On my mobile phone, i use it exclusively.
My opinion is the complete opposite to Timothy Miller's

Unfortunately i'm getting the same impression as cwizardone. I'm fearing this may be the end to Opera for Gnu/Linux users.
Just wanted to say thanks for participating in this thread ruario.

cwizardone · 11-16-2013, 03:08 AM

Just for chuckles I booted over to the winblows partition and downloaded and installed the latest version of the chrome clone... er.... Opera 17.xx and ran it for a short while.

Still no bookmarks. You do have the option of importing your bookmarks and converting them to "speed dial" graphics, but, IMHO, "speed dial" is one of the dumber things ever invented. Might be useable for someone with just a handful of bookmarks, but beyond that, no thank you.

But, "speed dial" is nothing to complain about compared to the inability to turn off tracking.

Yep, Opera (google?) is tracking you via something called, sitecheck.opera.com. That name might not be exact, but it is close. Until that can be turned off, I'll NEVER use Opera again. Period.