I Installed the Newest Opera Browser 8.5 a few days ago. Man is it faaaaaast!! The only thing I did not like was I could not get into Yahoo mail. (cookie error) and I could not access Gmail at all. I went to the Opera forums and tried every suggestion I could search for. Still the same issues. Needless to say, I gave up and uninstalled it and went back to Firefox.

Has anyone else had the similar or the same problems I have had above with Opera?? I would really like to give the Browser a try again( fast!! ), but If i can't even open Yahoo mail or Gmail , whats the point

That's strange ... I installed and ran Opera 8.5 and it works as advertised. Do you have the Java Runtime Environment?

I tried Opera before, but I didn't like their cookie handling interface ... I think it's too complicated for the simple task of either accepting or rejecting a cookie. Other than that, it was purty.

Well I tried Opera again. Same results... I give up on it. Maybe its a better browser for Windows

well, like brashley46 said, have you installed the java? when it is installed you need to tell opera where it is. gmail uses java and i assume that yahoo mail does as well. opera is a great browser and as you found out is extremely fast.

I have both Opera and Firefox installed.

I have no problems using Opera to read either Ymail or Gmail.

I prefer Firefox for web browsing, about the only thing I use Opera for is to play Runescape.

Actually, Gmail uses Javascript, not Java. , but they also provide a simpler HTML only version.

I have no problem accessing gmail and yahoo with Opera.

Perhaps if you post the exact error? You certainly don't need Java, as I've been using Opera for Linux to access Yahoo! Mail for years, and I never browse with Java enabled.

Hmm. I've been using Opera 7.30 on my Zaurus ROM vers. 2.38, to log in to yahoo and gmail.

I've recently been having serious problems uploading and downloading attachments/files since Yahoo did their recent upgrade, actions I could complete without a problem before the upgrade.

And went to other servers, and discovered that in my version (which I've been told is the most stable for my ROM), they all act really wierd when I try to upload.

I'm losing track as they're so many more, but know for sure that at gmail and yahoo, saying I want to add or upload an attachment or file yields a blank box along with a box that says CHOOSE. If I select CHOOSE, I either get told my browser is not compatible, or Opera presents me with the "Download file to:" dialogue box! Wrong thing!

Okay, try again. At all these sites, however, if I paste in the full path of the file I want to upload, and then select the right button or whatever to say upload, it will upload and even send the file even though it says it can't, won't, hasn't, depending on what server I'm at.

BTW, after each entry I make in that blank box (like whether I need to correct a typo or just push ENTER on my machine), my display scrolls to the top of the page no matter what.

On all these servers, they seem to all have finally upgraded some identical updates for Windows machines that causes the same scenario, same boxes, same forced back to top of page everywhere!

But they all say they haven't uploaded even though the files do in fact upload!

If you're having trouble uploading, you can try what I've been doing, but it's a pretty annoying interface.

Won't discuss downloads now, not enough time, but wondering if those of you with 8.5 are still doing okay with file transfer after Yahoo did it's recent uupgrade? I'm especially interested in also hearing from other Zaurus owners, but need to know if this is a general Linux Opera issue or just 7.30 on a pda box.

Please be sure to mention which versions you're running on what.

Thanks,

sdjf

I would like to use Opera, but it isn't compatible with roughly 90% of the sites I visit, including mine. That's a pain. I use Mozilla instead.

Btw, for you Firefox users, do you think it loads quicker than Mozilla? Firefox seems to be a bit lighter. Mozilla can take ages to load up sometimes.

> but If i can't even open Yahoo mail or Gmail , whats the point


Another thought about trouble logging in to gmail. Make sure there are no blank spaces to the left of your login name if you've pasted it in.

And you now have to include '@gmail.com' after your id, as in "yourid@gmail.com".

Hope that helps,

sdjf

Opera is IE based. I don't know why anyone, ESPECIALLY Linux users would want to get a pay for browser based on the IE code. Sure it is faster than IE, but FireFox and Opera have the same load times, FF is better, fully free, and is not IE based.

I have tried Opera on a few occassions to be fair in Windows, and never liked it. I have tried it in Linux, and uninstalled it immediately, and I will never reinstall it.(That part goes double for windows with their "dumb downed free version".)

FireFox is just plain a better browser, and one with the same kind of goals and creedos as linux for being free, having and adhering to standards... I can see why people use konquerer and a few other browsers on linux, but for Windows and Mac I can't see a reason someone would want to use anything but FireFox. And in linux you have far better options than just "Opera or FF". Try Konquerer if you really don't like FF and Opera never works.

As far a I know opera is not IE based, in fact there are speculations that microsoft may be considering purchasing opera instead of continuing to develop a buggy IE.

EDIT: it is not browser based, see http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/history/opera.htm

I don't know that I would cite as a source a personal blog from an employee who came into Opera in 2k2 and only contains anything updated till 2k3. That is HARDLY an accurate source, and certainly not one I would ever rely on for an accurate history of a browser.

I have read many articles over the span of the passed 10 years, and I can tell you, maybe originally it wasn't IE based(version 1.0) but it certainly annexed a lot of IE code over the years, and handles bad code in the same way. They like to say things like "We have the best CSS support" but there is certainly no documentation they handle xml, xhtml, css, html, or others more to the standards than IE. Whereas, FireFox, Konquerer, Amaya and a dozen others THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR to get the full version have W3C approved and tested support for all of these.

I have no right to tell anyone which browser to use, but do some reputable research on the subject before you chose a browser that you have to pay for. Look heavily to standards handling, then tell me of a browser other than IE that has lower standards handling. After that, check into features and see if FF doesn't have about 15x the features available.