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View Poll Results: Multiple choice: When would you install LibreOffice or OpenOffice?
LibreOffice Most of the Time 25 71.43%
OpenOffice Most of the Time 1 2.86%
LibreOffice if Windows 15 42.86%
OpenOffice if Windows 0 0%
LibreOffice if MacOS 8 22.86%
OpenOffice if MacOS 0 0%
LibreOffice if Linux 20 57.14%
OpenOffice if Linux 1 2.86%
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:29 PM   #16
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Sorry for that!

At work I am forced to use Microsoft Office which is not really as good to use as it was ten years ago anymore. Privately, I mainly use LaTeX for letters and other documents these days. For the rare occasions where I need an actual office suite, SoftMaker Office is my weapon of choice. The price (there are random discounts available) is fine for me as long as I get my stuff done with it.
That's actually my preferred go-to office suite as well. Buy a 6-seat license every new version (linux only).
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:42 PM   #17
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I stopped using LibreOffice and OpenOffice all along when LibreOffice failed to render an OpenOffice-generated OpenDocument file correctly. I am not interested in software which can't even parse its homebrew format correctly.
I think it would be much more valuable to open a bug in LibreOffice project about the problem of that document, which possibly affects many other documents.

I would do that, if I had a document that triggers the problem.

If there are incompatible changes or facts of different [Libre|Open]Office versions, they should no be thrown out. Surely not!
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:51 PM   #18
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I think it would be much more valuable to open a bug in LibreOffice project about the problem of that document
I did, but (according to what I know) there was no fix available in any later version. Of course I'm fine with less bugs in any software, but an "office suite" is critical for some people and the time they can wait to be able to use their files is mostly limited.

It might well be that it is "fixed" as of today, but I don't really care anymore.
 
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Oh, YesItsMe. It is nice that you did it! If you still have that file, would you mind giving it to me, saying which versions of OO and LO you saw the problem, and what it was exactly?

I keep many documents stored for many many years, and I would not like this fact being the cause for future bad surprises with LibreOffice, since I will probably use it for a long time from now.

If you prefer, I may give you my email in a private message, and you send the file there.
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:06 AM   #20
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I'm afraid the file does not exist anymore - but thank you a lot.
(But it was merely a two-page text document without extraordinary formatting features.)
 
Old 10-13-2017, 08:52 AM   #21
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It being a simple document is something strange to happen. I will assume that it has been fixed to not happen anymore.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 10:38 AM   #22
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I need to exchange complex MS Office files with customers, so I use MS Office on Windows.
But I am also using Linux, so what to do?
Untily some months ago I always went for LibreOffice, but I recently discovered WPS Office
http://wps-community.org/downloads
which is much, much more compatible with MS Office.
Now I no more consider nor OO neither LO.
BTW WPS is completely free.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:47 AM   #23
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Tried SoftMaker Office?
 
Old 11-08-2017, 10:50 AM   #24
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I need to exchange complex MS Office files with customers, so I use MS Office on Windows.
But I am also using Linux, so what to do?
Untily some months ago I always went for LibreOffice, but I recently discovered WPS Office
http://wps-community.org/downloads
which is much, much more compatible with MS Office.
Now I no more consider nor OO neither LO.
BTW WPS is completely free.
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No, WPS is only free while it's in alpha/beta. It's paid for software once it gets released (if it ever gets released).

BTW, the main advantage of WPS is that it looks so much like MS Office with the ribbon, Softmaker 2018 will also have the ribbon, and from my experience using both, Softmaker actually LISTENS to feedback and responds, not just ignoring their users completely like WPS.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 11:59 AM   #25
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It is possible to run ms-word via WINE on the Linux desktop. I've done it, but it was years ago. One could also use Codeweaver's CrossOver to accomplish the same thing.
I've been told by a ms-word "power user" that there are compatibility issues between different versions of ms-office and some law offices are generating .pdf files to get around the problem.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 12:20 PM   #26
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I've been told by a ms-word "power user" that there are compatibility issues between different versions of ms-office and some law offices are generating .pdf files to get around the problem.
That is not a surprise for me. But generating PDF files is a feature I first saw in OpenOffice, years ago. MS took time to do it too, as it does today. Still, exporting to PDF was something that made friends and coleagues, with a little help from me, to start using Open/LibreOffice. They love it ever since.
(:
 
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:55 PM   #27
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Funny no one mentioned WPS until after I chided someone in another thread for posting links from WPS' own site as evidence of how superior it is to other office suites. I can't prove it but I get the distinct feeling someone at WPS is doing a social media campaign to get the word out on forums like LQ.

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Old 11-08-2017, 01:27 PM   #28
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Funny no one mentioned WPS until after I chided someone in another thread for posting links from WPS' own site as evidence of how superior it is to other office suites. I can't prove it but I get the distinct feeling someone at WPS is doing a social media campaign to get the sword out on forums like LQ.
IF they are, they should have their dev team fix the current installers first. They're broken for all modern debian based OS's due to dependencies on libraries that aren't just outdated, but aren't even USED anymore.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 04:08 PM   #29
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IF they are, they should have their dev team fix the current installers first. They're broken for all modern debian based OS's due to dependencies on libraries that aren't just outdated, but aren't even USED anymore.
Ha. As if Marketing departments concern themselves with trivial concerns such as whether the product is actually viable. Their job is to sell and if that takes using weasel words or even outright prevarications, so be it.
 
Old 11-09-2017, 06:38 AM   #30
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When I read that all the developers upped and left OO and forked it to LibreOffice, that told me:
1. OO was going to die.
2. LibreOffice was the way forward, even if was crap currently (which, iirc, it was for a very brief period).
3. Something was desperately wrong in OO management to make the developers all get off their backsides and go to the bother of setting up a fork. The fact that basically ALL and not just a few of the developers did this was very significant to me. Their on-the-money ideas and experience is benefiting LO, not OO. Pale Moon was, by comparison, a few disgruntled developers and is not keeping up.
4. The fact that OO are saying "We want developers to join us" is like an ad for staff on the Titanic or the Lusitania, and confirms 3.
5. If there was a good manager over all that, he would fire the OO management who presided over the developer walkout and promote/hire new. That hasn't happened. So OO is doomed, and sooner rather than later.

In 2013/2014, I did a fairly large project report which I wrote up, and checked in m$office. My university was strictly windows based, but I had access on similar pcs to the lecturers. The results were different, so I polished the doc in LO, exported to pdf, and checked in Acrobat on windows- perfect! I submitted in pdf.

It's interesting given the above, to hear the comments on WPS. The trick there seems to be to get a late beta, never buy, and use the beta as long as it's useful, by which time LO will probably catch up. I view a Word Processor as an essential part of any OS these days, and Linux has really brought out the cheapskate in me big time :-).

EDIT: I installed Alpha21 of WPS. I was underwhelmed, to put it mildly. The file 'Readme.txt' clearly wasn't written by a native English speaker and had more special characters than text; No installer; A lot of repackaging required; binary installs; The only obsolete lib required was libpng.so.12; It couldn't find it's own fonts until I loaded them into the system; the interface was underwhelming - quite the m$doc experience, which I detest. They haven't a clue, to put it mildly.
The Android App is leagues better. Let's hope the windows version is better and I have a few VMs that can use it.

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