LinuxQuestions.org
Welcome to the most active Linux Forum on the web.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software
User Name
Password
Linux - Software This forum is for Software issues.
Having a problem installing a new program? Want to know which application is best for the job? Post your question in this forum.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 03-03-2003, 11:30 PM   #1
Pwcca
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Florida, USA
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 169

Rep: Reputation: 30
Netscape, Galeon, and Mozilla --browser woes.


Ok, here's a real noob question... but i'm tired of searching for some sort of configuration setting :

I've read that galeon and mozilla both run off the netscape engine.. so, could someone explain exactly what that means and what is supposed to be similar about them?

My problem is that mozilla and galeon seem faster that netscape, but they draw text really tiny on the pages and i can't seem to find a way to change that . However, netscape shows text and images just fine... except that it's slow and the browser is full of candy that i dont need.

Could someone offer suggestions on getting the best of both worlds here.. or perhaps offereing other suggestions for a lean, powerful web browser? I've had bad experiences with Opera under Windows. How is it for Linux? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Old 03-04-2003, 12:45 AM   #2
nouse66
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: O.C., CA
Distribution: Kubuntu
Posts: 70

Rep: Reputation: 15
to help you font problem you can go into the fonts section of the preferences for mozilla and set the minimum font size. mine is set to 9 and it seems to work well.
 
Old 03-04-2003, 01:57 AM   #3
carlywarly
Member
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Sunny Southport, again.
Distribution: PCLinuxOS 0.93 and 0.92, Vector sometimes
Posts: 825

Rep: Reputation: 30
I use Opera and it's excellent, but my favourite is Konqueror.
 
Old 03-04-2003, 05:20 AM   #4
viciousfish
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2002
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian Sarge, Gentoo
Posts: 70

Rep: Reputation: 15
Mozilla, Galeon and Netscape share the same Rendering Engine, called Gecko. Gecko draws teh text, pictures and other such things that actually appear on the web page.

They all have different interfaces - the buttons and extras which control the browsers. Netscape and Mozilla are very similar, they both use XUL, which is a kind of XML language for drawing user interfaces. Galeon uses GTK, which is the same stuff used in GNOME.
 
Old 03-04-2003, 08:02 PM   #5
Pwcca
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Florida, USA
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 169

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
Oh, ok... hmm...

Well, i've tried to simply change the font size in Galeon, for instance, and it still just doesnt look right. So far, Netscape seems to still render the pages best... but it's still too slow.

I downloaded Dillo yesterday and was really impressed with how fast and simple it is. Unfortunately, it doesnt support frames or java.. and it wont display certain images.

I think maybe i'll give Opera a try under Linux and see how well i like it. Anyone know of any ultra-light, yet powerful browsers... maybe like Dillo except with better support?
 
Old 03-04-2003, 08:22 PM   #6
Texicle
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Distribution: Slackware 10.0
Posts: 789

Rep: Reputation: 30
I use Opera, and it's smokin'! Fast and lean. You can disable popups too. I have used it in Windows, and didn't like it. In Linux, it's very nice. If you're going to go to hotmail or any other MS website, you need to set it to identify as IE or Mozilla and not Opera as MS will give you problems about your browser. With hotmail it tells me that I need to upgrade my browser to IE 5.0 or higher. When I go to hotmail identifying as Mozilla or IE, I get no error messages or anything. Very bizarre.
 
Old 03-05-2003, 12:54 AM   #7
Can O' Beans
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 31

Rep: Reputation: 15
Try Phoenix, an offshoot of Mozilla(available on Mozilla page). Best one so far, overall, in my opinion.
 
Old 03-05-2003, 06:26 PM   #8
wapcaplet
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Distribution: Gentoo
Posts: 2,018

Rep: Reputation: 48
Quote:
Originally posted by Can O' Beans
Try Phoenix, an offshoot of Mozilla(available on Mozilla page). Best one so far, overall, in my opinion.
I'd second that. I used Galeon for a while, but it seemed kinda flaky. Opera is my favorite for Windows, but the Linux version is pretty ugly. Mozilla had weird problems. Finally tried Phoenix and have stuck with it ever since - aside from a minor issue with GTK themes (which Mozilla and Galeon seem to have too), it is speedy, stable, and looks great!
 
Old 03-05-2003, 07:05 PM   #9
Pwcca
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Florida, USA
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 169

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
I just downloaded phoenix and I'm liking it so far... a few questions, though...

How is it compiled and installed?? All i did was untar and then sh phoenix

It seems to run, ok... but i think i'm missing a few steps.

Last edited by Pwcca; 03-05-2003 at 07:21 PM.
 
Old 03-05-2003, 07:44 PM   #10
Pwcca
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Florida, USA
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 169

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 30
Ok, i'm answering my own question here, but hopefully this contributes to the vast body of info that is linuxquestions.org

I found this at http://texturizer.net/phoenix/faq.html#1.3

1.5 How do I install Phoenix?

Strictly speaking, you don't install Phoenix. You just unzip/untar the compressed file and place it in a folder of your choice. Windows users: just run phoenix.exe. Linux users: just run the phoenix script. If you want shortcuts for Phoenix, you will have to create them manually.

So, there we have it... so how does not installing it effect the program itself? I really don't know much about compiling and installing but does it mean that the libraries are not dynamically linked? So the actually program is larger since it's not installed?
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Browser except Mozilla(Netscape),Opera for linux. akihandyman Linux - Newbie 3 06-09-2004 07:42 PM
Install Flash plugin for Galeon Browser ejennings_98 Linux - Software 1 02-22-2004 09:29 PM
Mozilla vs. Galeon mikeshn Linux - Software 6 05-24-2003 02:50 AM
Mozilla vs Galeon frankprogramer Linux - Software 9 11-16-2002 03:37 AM
Galeon is Mozilla? mikeshn Linux - Software 7 09-05-2002 03:16 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Software

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:37 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration