Multiple KDE questions

prophet665 · 07-28-2003, 04:58 PM

First off, I would like to say this site kicks some major butt, my first post took less than 20 minutes to get a reply, and that is awesome!

Ok...here are my newbie KDE questions:

1. How do I let someone other than root start the KDE services? When I try to do it as a regular user I get the message "Only root wants to do that". I have tried "chmod"ing the KDM command, but that didn't seem to help.

2. How do I stop the KDE services completely? For example, I am trying to update my video drivers and it requires that xserver not be running (wow...good English on my part....), so I want to shutdown KDE without having to reboot and return to the command prompt. CTRL-ALT-Backspace does not stop the xserver service for me, it just dumps me to a command prompt with the xserver still running in memory.

3. Has anyone worked with building a C++ GUI in KDevlop? How difficult is it to work with the widgets?

Thanks,
Christian

david_ross · 07-28-2003, 05:02 PM

1) Try:
startx

2.1) In a terminal type:
ps -ef | grep X
2.2) Kill any pids that show up:
kill <PID>

3) Sorry - not me.

Tinkster · 07-28-2003, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prophet665
1. How do I let someone other than root start the KDE services? When I try to do it as a regular user I get the message "Only root wants to do that". I have tried "chmod"ing the KDM command, but that didn't seem to help.

You shouldn't do that :} for security reasons.
If you need kdm, let it be started from the startup
scripts as root.

Quote:

2. How do I stop the KDE services completely? For example, I am trying to update my video drivers and it requires that xserver not be running (wow...good English on my part....), so I want to shutdown KDE without having to reboot and return to the command prompt. CTRL-ALT-Backspace does not stop the xserver service for me, it just dumps me to a command prompt with the xserver still running in memory.

the safest would be to
su -c "telinit 3"

Quote:

3. Has anyone worked with building a C++ GUI in KDevlop? How difficult is it to work with the widgets?

How good are you with C++? :)

Cheers,
Tink

prophet665 · 07-28-2003, 05:34 PM

Ok...tried the su command and it didn't work. It didn't even give me a message of any kind and KDE is still up and running. I also tried the kill commands from the previous reply and while it did stop KDE, KDE just restarted itself and brought me back to the login screen. That is the frustrating part. I have it so that the machione boots to a prompt, but once I start KDE, I can't get rid of it.

I am a VB, javascript, VBA, and VBScript programmer trying to learn C++. So you can imagine how frustrating it is for me not to have all the debugging tools Microsoft supplies, nor the ability to step through my code. I am starting to realize why VB is one of the most popular langauges around, any bonehead can have a working application in 10 minutes.

Tinkster · 07-28-2003, 06:42 PM

Quote:

tried the su command and it didn't work.

Right ... let's try that differently:

Code:

1.) Open a konsole
2.) do "su -"
3.) do "telinit 3" ... if it says command not found,
    try "init 3" ... if that doesn't work, try to locate
    the RH specific version by using "man -k runlevel | grep 1"
    and use the program whose description matches the best :)

Quote:

all the debugging tools Microsoft supplies

Well, there should be DDD installed (I hope RH
bundles that one), which is a very good graphical
frontend to the the very good gdb (GNU Debugger).
Since I don't really use KDevelop I don't know whether
it is integrated into the IDE.

Cheers,
Tink

david_ross · 07-29-2003, 03:02 AM

Tinkster - I think he is starting it manually from runlevel 3.

Tinkster · 07-29-2003, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Tinkster - I think he is starting it manually from runlevel 3.

Hi David,

and I don't know how he starts it .. :)

But I'm almost sure that RH would
default to init 4 ;)

If he starts it manually a
su -c "killall X"
should do the trick :)

Cheers,
Tink

prophet665 · 07-29-2003, 09:03 PM

I am starting KDE manually. I boot to runlevel 3 initially, and I want to get back to that same spot, but KDE somehow restarts itself. I will try Tink's suggestion.

This all came about because I am trying to get Wolfenstein : Enemy Territory working on Linux. It crashes way to often in WinXP. Has anyone got it to work on Linux?

Tinkster · 07-29-2003, 09:41 PM

Umm ... how do you start kde?

Cheers,
Tink

prophet665 · 07-29-2003, 10:13 PM

Login as root
At the prompt type "kdm"

Tinkster · 07-29-2003, 11:16 PM

cool ... to kill it all:
killall kdm

Cheers,
Tink