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Old 05-14-2003, 03:07 AM   #1
yongbeng
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Multimedia Station


Hi guys...this is the first time I came to this website...really hope to get help here...

you see...I have a old P3...700..would like to use it for my own multimedia station...since my VCR is spoilt...I was thinking of getting a video capture card...but i got stuck even before the start..

you see..true...you would be able to get lots of video capture card in the market...but one that can record, and it's for linux...I can't seem to find one..I understand from sourceforge that there are a couple of projects that would enable us to recrod..but..I would like to buy 1 card off the shelves and save time instead of trying out each software..

2nd question is that i read from the following link

Running web and mp3 player without X windows

but...I still can't get what is a FB...so..let say I want

1) User Interaction

•The user would log in and not see any Linux interface. Straightaway, they would see a full screen interface. This interface would need to be a web browser but the user is not supposed to know it. The interface would need to be full screen with no buttons and address of a web browser.

•There should be a main screen where user can choose what they want to do.

•If the user inserts a CD, they should disable the auto pop up of the folder. They will then do the respective thing they want to do like playing the CD or DVD.


2)Playing MP3

•The user would choose an mp3 on the main screen and choose then a list of songs should appear. This would actually point to a static folder where it would read all the mp3 files. On the top of this play list, the users suppose to be able to choose in alphabetical order of the song.

3)Playing DVD / CD

•From the main screen, the user should be able to choose to play DVD. They must of course first insert the DVD. If no disc is inserted, the screen should prompt to insert DVD / CD. Once inserted, it would play the movies or songs.

•If the one inserted is a CD, it should display the list of the songs and the song that the system is currently playing.

•If the one inserted is an mp3 CD, it should then go into another folder, where this folder would display the mp3 files in the disc. Once a file is selected for playing, the screen should display the information of the songs.


4)Playing TV

•On the main screen, we should display a TV function. Once click, we would go into the TV menu. This TV menu would have few options. One is to record TV, another is to play the recorded TV shows.

•The user should be able to choose what channel they want to record, time and other related information. They would then give this record a name of their choice. This is to enable them to choose easily in the future when they want to watch the recorded show.

•When watching the recorded show, they would just need to choose the name that they recorded, and play.


This is a rough idea of my dream...anyone think this could be possible in linux?? if yes...how do I get started??
 
Old 05-14-2003, 03:38 AM   #2
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Of course it's all possible. However, it'd be a LOT of work to start something like this from scratch. Modulize. There are existing applications that do some of these things already. Simply wrap something around them.

If you are feeling prosperous, you could look into using Perl and GTK+ toolkit. There are several Oreilly books on things like this if thats the route you'd like to take. Otherwise, you might be able to adapt existing projects to your needs. Look at:
www.mythTV.org
And
www.freevo.org

Both are similar projects implimenting such things as you desire above. Both are not even near completion, but will help you get a running start at the very least.

HTH

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Old 05-14-2003, 03:45 AM   #3
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I wanted to try freevo initially...however...due to my country I'm staying, my homeland don't support XMLTV..which was unable for me to watch TV, recording and stuffs like that...

regarding the command line in html...what's the advantage??
if you remember from my previous post, a guy actually suggested me to not use X-windows...what's the purpose of not using X-windows??
 
Old 05-14-2003, 04:04 AM   #4
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Well I personally wouldn't worry too much about the need of X or not. I mean, if you wanted to do that, just to do it, then that's fine; and you probably could.

However, to make your life easier, you should consider just using a very light window manager, possibly even just 'xinit' which is the very most basic X there is.

Also, same goes for the web-interface. You could do it, however, again, why the work? You'd be better off using interfaces or keybindings...

Here's some ideas for you to contemplate:
You seem like you don't want it to be apparent that you have Linux (or maybe it's that you don't want it to be apparent it's a computer?) running. If that is the case, then disregard all this...

1. Just have it boot up regularly, everything running normally in a standard window manager (maybe fluxbox, openbox or something lighter like xinit). Then, using keybindings with your remote control (check out the lirc project: www.lirc.org ) press a single key to start TV. A single key to start recording. A single key to play a movie.

Now these keybindings would either be scripts calling programs:
Code:
!#/bin/bash
mplayer -vo xv -dvd 1
would be an example of your basic script/key binding to play a DVD.

FYI: WinTV Go cards work just fine for TV Capture in Linux and they seem to be relatively cheap right now. Most of your cards available use the bttv driver which is in your kernel already. Best thing to do is find a card you like (or one that is cheap) and then go on google.com/linux and see if it's supported and maybe what driver it uses.

HTH

Cool
 
Old 05-14-2003, 04:10 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by yongbeng
I wanted to try freevo initially...however...due to my country I'm staying, my homeland don't support XMLTV..which was unable for me to watch TV, recording and stuffs like that...
Well that's not completely true. XMLTV would allow you to view what's going to be on, like an on-screen TV Guide. But, you don't necessarily need that to actually WATCH tv using Freevo. You can edit the code to make it work without XMLTV (AFAIK). For recording, you would be in for a bit more... However, assuming you have your box somehow linked to your actual computer, you could ssh into your multimedia box and setup cronjobs to record programs at certain times (that's what I do). You would of course need to know the time(s) your programs are on, but that is usually not too hard

If you want to try that, I'll be glad to go into depth on setting up crons to record, and how exactly I do it.

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Old 05-14-2003, 04:22 AM   #6
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this is getting very interesting! ok...if I'm able to use freevo without the concern on XMLTV...then...I must be feeling great!!
ok..I've download freevo..so..editing the code would be somewhat be instructed in the freevo site rite?? or is their any guide to teach me to edit..cuz I'm a rather beginner here...sorry..
 
Old 05-14-2003, 05:31 AM   #7
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Yeah, there is some info on their site regarding editing the code. The documentation on this is going to be geared making things work though. So take what you can from the documentation, but where it gets into the part of making xmltv work, simply read it, but make it work for your situation.

You will/should know some basic commands and also a bit on config files before attempting to do this though. You could try, but if you don't succeed the first time up, don't get discouraged.

Being a beginner and editing config files usually is scary. Don't worry about it. Just make sure you backup working (or default) config files before you "tweak" them. Then, if something doesn't work out, you can always revert back.

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