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Old 08-24-2017, 12:21 PM   #1
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Mozilla Information Trust Initiative - Part of Firefox or an Add-on?


I've heard about Firefox's "Mozilla Information Trust Initiative" AKA " fake news" initiative.

Is this something which will result in "fake news" censorship being a part of Firefox? Or will it result in a new add-on for people who want it?



I'm curious because I really don't want that kind of censorship. Some folks (myself included) view this as a possible method of censorship, which goes against Freedom Zero, which in this case would be using the Internet for any purpose - instead of having either megacorporations or a single political party govern what people can read on the Internet.

While I appreciate the ethical stuff Mozilla does with Firefox, I don't think they should have the power to censor what people read on on the Internet. That would give them too much power which could be misused.

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Old 08-25-2017, 09:46 PM   #2
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Have you read the Mozilla blog post about it? https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/0...mation-online/

It seems to be still very much in the formative stages. Mozilla does note that

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We can’t solve misinformation with technology alone—we also need to educate and empower Internet users, as well as those leading innovative literacy initiatives.
Frankly, as far as I am concerned, "fake news" is not a technology problem.

It's a persons problem: persons who don't read, don't think, don't investigate, and don't reflect.
 
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:33 AM   #3
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Have you read the Mozilla blog post about it? https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/0...mation-online/

It seems to be still very much in the formative stages. Mozilla does note that



Frankly, as far as I am concerned, "fake news" is not a technology problem.

It's a persons problem: persons who don't read, don't think, don't investigate, and don't reflect.
I actually had not read that. I was looking for something like that on their site, but I guess I just didn't look hard enough.

So, it's really just to teach users to identify fake news and it's not something which will lead to censorship?
 
Old 08-26-2017, 05:09 PM   #4
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So, it's really just to teach users to identify fake news and it's not something which will lead to censorship?
i applaud the idea behind it, but i can't see how it could be implemented without constituting censorship.

no, i prefer freedom of speech, even if it means i have to put up with more BS.
 
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i applaud the idea behind it, but i can't see how it could be implemented without constituting censorship.

no, i prefer freedom of speech, even if it means i have to put up with more BS.
That's exactly how I feel about this particular issue. I was just worried that Mozilla was going to make Firefox perform that kind of censorship.
 
Old 08-27-2017, 08:53 PM   #6
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I share the qualms of Mr. Macintosh and Ondoho, with this proviso: If some way could be found to block bots that spew Tweets and Facebook posts and other phoney social media thingees while pretending to be independent actors, I would not consider that censorship and could support such an effort.

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