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Old 07-15-2003, 05:56 PM   #1
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mozilla hyperlink hand


a bit of a trivial problem, but it is really bugging me:

does anyone know how to change the hand in mozilla to the standard hyperlink hand (the white, normal one that points up) instead of the small, weird, deformed one that points left? on redhat it was fine, but in slackware 9 it's the weird one. because i am using the same version of the browser (1.4), i'm assuming something in the distro must be controlling it.

i've searched through google and the forums (and /usr/local/mozilla), but i can't find anything. appreciate!
 
Old 07-27-2003, 01:21 PM   #2
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~bump~ no one?
 
Old 07-28-2003, 02:15 AM   #3
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I dunno how to fix it but it bugs me too.

Probably an icon pack in a lib somewhere. I did 'locate mozilla' and 'locate hand' as shots in the dark but didn't turn up anything. As you say, it's probably not Mozilla but something in an X11 lib or something. A crappy hack would be to replace the icon with another of the same name, possibly. A better one would be to figure out what file governs its use or figure out resedit.

But it doesn't bug me *that* much. *g* Good luck. This is another bump, at least.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 09:16 PM   #4
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thanks. i just installed dropline gnome and that took care of it. talk about a workaround! (heh heh.) but i'll have to say it looks much nicer than KDE all around, and mozilla/firebird looks simply awesome. i'm really loving slack!
 
Old 07-29-2003, 02:25 AM   #5
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Yeah, that is a long way to go for a hand-icon but I'm sure that's not the only reason. *g* I might try that dropline gnome out myself - everybody who has seems to love it.
 
Old 07-30-2003, 03:30 AM   #6
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Okay - I did try that dropline-gnome (on it now). I think I'm still a *box guy at heart but I could try this for awhile. It does feel lighter than KDE or regular Gnome somehow and looks pretty good. But now I've got a problem much worse (to me) than the hand: I open a zillion Mozilla tabs at once and I need the tooltips to show what threads and sites I'm on. When I hover the mouse over the tabs that say "Li..." or "..." on them - the tooltip's supposed to pop up and say "LinuxQuestions.org - foo thread". I don't guess you'd have any idea how to fix that? I don't even know if this is a dropline problem or a Mozilla 1.4 problem. (I wish I'd thought about it more before getting my 1.3 replaced by 1.4 anyway - I don't want to newgrade (can't call it "upgrade") my Mozilla.)
 
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Yes, the leftward pointing hand is a standard Xlib cursor (along with rockets, and other wierd things).
 
Old 07-30-2003, 10:47 AM   #8
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i can't decide if i like this gnome or not. i always preferred fluxbox, too, switching between that and KDE. dropline does seem lighter than KDE, but checking ps -aux it seems it is running a ton of things! i think the no tooltips is a gnome thing, unfortunately. i can't see any way to turn it on in mozilla, at least, and i have to doubt it's a 1.4 vs. 1.3 issue (though i haven't tested 1.3 in gnome to be 100% sure).

do you have font anti-aliasing in mozilla in fluxbox? i would switch in a minute if i could get the fonts to look good in slack. that was really the only reason i installed dropline -- i couldn't get an XFT version of mozilla to compile in slack.
 
Old 07-30-2003, 11:22 AM   #9
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Yeah - it's running a truckload of processes. But if you run Mozilla and xmms and that weather thing, they each spawn a half-dozen processes that I think are actually one. At one point I was running 77 processes but was using less than 200 megs of RAM, excluding cache. Still, I ran fluxbox on a P100 with 32 megs RAM with no problems at all. Can't remember what it was using on this box.

I also can't remember about anti-aliasing. I had it somewhere but I can't remember if it was wm or app-specific. I turned it back off just because it made the fonts huge and I wasn't focusing on how to make them right at the time. (Fonts are pretty terrible. I think that's why dropline is so popular - they *still* aren't what I'd call perfect, but they're nice.)

I dunno. I'm slipping to the dark side. I've got a clock up top, followed by the weather applet, followed by the mail applet, followed by the workspace thing and clear desktop and running processes thing. And at the bottom, all the apps in this workspace and a bunch of CD Player buttons. Playing The Jesus and Mary Chain's "Automatic", appropriately enough. Kind of nice having all this... *stuff*. *lol*

But the thing I like about flux is just that - no stuff. Just apps. Better to concentrate. I've just been reading help docs and tweaking eye candy for hours. Damn GUIs.
 
Old 07-30-2003, 11:32 AM   #10
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Quote:
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I've just been reading help docs and tweaking eye candy for hours. Damn GUIs.
me too, heh. it does kind of grow on you. *g* as long as the performance stays good, i think i will stick with this for awhile and fully test it out. then when i start getting bored with it i'll switch over to flux.
 
Old 07-30-2003, 11:51 AM   #11
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Yeah, about that - were you talking mainly about switching to Slack or flux or both? I forgot you weren't primarily using Slack because I was thinking the dropline thing was more Slack-specific. Do you dual boot Windows by any chance? I cheated and copied fonts from a Windows directory into my Slack directory and it helped a bit. And there are fonts available on the net that can be added.

Dual-boot. Heh. There's got to be a word for "I keep a Windows partition on my box so I can raid it for fonts and such-like." I haven't booted into Windows since I installed Slack except once to steal fonts and twice to make sure it was still there after I tried a triple boot with Mandrake and then Debian. *g*
 
Old 07-30-2003, 12:03 PM   #12
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i got rid of red hat the last time i installed slack (i guess i should get around to updating that profile one of these days ). i've only used flux in RH, though, not in slack yet. i've had a lot of problems with fonts in slack -- like fonts getting corrupted just from copying them from windows partition, mozilla not being able to find them or the bitstreams, lack of anti-aliasing in moz, etc. so that's why i finally checked out dropline. i spend a ton of time in mozilla, and i can't really deal with it looking like crap. so maybe when i get more time i will check into getting XFT mozilla working in slack again, and then switch to flux. right now i've got about a zillion things to install and configure, and gnome is just working so i guess i'll stick with it for now.

>edit, yes i dual-boot w/win2k pro.

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Old 07-30-2003, 12:39 PM   #13
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Mozilla is home. And that's the same OS I swiped the fonts from.

How do you find out the compiler options built into your version of Mozilla? I did 'mozilla -v' but it just said '1.4'. Anyway - it could be my imagination but I started up a second X session and ran Mozilla in flux and the menus didn't look right, but the page looked similar. Maybe dropline just updates and enhances fonts generally and if you switch the settings you can make the menu bars look better too? Regarding the page, if Mozilla has the 'allow documents to use other fonts', it isn't limited by what fonts it thinks it has. I'm just confused about how to get Mozilla to recognize additional fonts. (And fluxbox does have anti-aliasing but my Mozilla menus don't respond to it, either.) In other words, the page looks good and the window looks good - it's just the menu that doesn't.

Hm. Well, my fonts look great in console. That's no trouble at all.
 
  


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