Greetings:

I have installed Fedora 20 on a new machine, and I have run into some problems finding certain programs I am used to using.

In previous versions of Fedora, I had access to a number of different programs, including a "Service Configuration" program which I was able to use to turn on services like HTTP (very useful when you are configuring Apache, because you can stop and restart the service after editing the .conf file), the Apache Server itself, and (most important) an SELinux management application that allowed me to dynamically set the enforcing mode *extremely useful when screwing around with SELinux!!!).

The latest Fedora version does not appear to have these programs. Worse, I cannot seem to find them when searching the yum repositories.

There appears to be a "Services" application that comes with Fedora 20 (some systemd derivative?) but frankly it does not work like the ones I am used to. For one thing, there is no httpd listed as one of the services, it apparently cannot manage smbd (because that service is not one of the services listed!) and the user interface in general is confusing and is inferior to the services application that I am used to. Because it does not manage smbd, nmb, or httpd it is pretty useless to me.

Concerning httpd: Fedora 20 does not appear to have Apache at all, and the repositories don't seem to have it either. This is somewhat surprising since every previous version of Fedora I used has at least pointed to a repository that has Apache. I used the graphical software app that comes with Fedora 20 and the command line yum command to search for Apache, and both cannot find it.

The same goes for the SELinux applications. There are some, but the SELinux administrators are not on any current repository pointed to by Fedora 20!

What gives? Are people removing functionality from Fedora, and why??? If there have been some overlooked repositories, where are they so I can add them to my system?

The bottom line is that there were applications that allowed me to do things that I can no longer do because these applications are missing. Could someone please tell me where I can find them???

Someone please advise...

as for services
fedora moved to systemD back in ( i think )fedora 17
there are no more services
but you can still use the emulated "telinit 3 " on boot

basically there are NO "run level ( 3 , 5 ) services"

to set the "old " services you now configure the program in system D

apache would be there
it should be under the yum group " web server"
or under the name it has used for a long time
"httpd-2.4.6-6.fc20.rpm"
did you look in the fedora Remi repo ??
or in the RpmFusion repo ?

mind you install and CONFIGURE !!!! "yum-priorities" plugin FIRST

fedora 20 is NOW shipping with " Apache Hadoop" ( needs testing big time for redhat )


but i find it BEST to manually install the Http stack manually
also "MySQL" is NOT USED any longer
redhat/Fedora/CentOS have moved to using "maria DB" ( a full rewrite of the OLD Mysql code )

what gives .....
Fedora is a VERY fast passed "Research and Development " distro

running web sites on a fedora install would be rather hard with doing a NEW clean fresh install every 6 months . When the next fedora release is out .

?
did you install them ???????????

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Greetings:

Thanks for the information, it was helpful.

There are a few problems to be checked:

1. You mentioned some repos that I should add to my yum repository list. Where are these repos (and if they are so important, why aren't they active in the yum list by default)?

2. You mention my need to do a "yum search selinux" in order to get the SELinux Administrator. As I stated in my original post, I did search for SELinux, using the Yum command line (which means I used you search) and through your graphical software app. I was able to find all SELinux- related applications *except* the administrator. In fact, I found that the command line does show information that the graphical interface does not (In my opinion this is not a good thing, but this is something I prefer to discuss later), mostly on the order of various libraries that some selinux applications depend on. What "yum search selinux" does *not* show is the administrative application I am looking for. Where has that application gone?

3. So the systemD application is now the way to utilize services like Samba and Httpd??? Then why isn't Samba managed by the systemd manager???

Please advise.

Please use e.g. $ yum provides */system-config-selinux
.. to search for "system-config-selinux".
( The package name to install is `policycoreutils-gui' ).

$ yum provides */system-config-httpd
.. the reply is `system-config-httpd' : Apache configuration tool.

$ yum provides */system-config-samba
.. package name = `system-config-samba'.

Fedora (and other Redhat OS´) has never included any 3'party repositories.
Rpmfusion : Type rpmfusion in Google.
Google will also suggest rpmfusion fedora ..
https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=all#...sion+fedora+19
... and of course you will have "Configuration - RPM Fusion" in the first hit
http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/

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Greetings, Knudfl:

I performed the following:

yum provides */system-config-selinux

and received the following:

<snip>
http://mirror.uoregon.edu/fedora/lin...ts.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
http://mirror.steadfast.net/fedora/u...ts.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
http://mirror.ancl.hawaii.edu/linux/...ts.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] curl#7 - "Failed to connect to 2607:f278:4101:12:5054:ff:feea:9dd: Network is unreachable"
http://mirror.cc.vt.edu/pub/fedora/l...ts.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found
http://mirrors.zimcom.net/pub/fedora...ts.sqlite.bz2: [Errno 14] curl#7 - "Failed to connect to 2607:f550:100:33::23: Network is unreachable"

I get the same failures when I perform the other commands you suggested:

yum provides */system-config-httpd
yum provides */system-config-samba

Does this mean that Fedora is no longer supporting these? Or are they supposed to be in one of the third- party repositories?

Please advise...

All "system-config-** " packages are basic Fedora packages.
No 3'party repos are required.

You can actually read the rpmfusion file list, to know what 3'party can be ..
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/...thing/i386/os/

"HTTP Error 404 - Not Found" :
May be "mirror.uoregon.edu" was doing some changes, when you did the command ?
... Anyway, the file ..
"http://mirror.uoregon.edu/fedora/linux/updates/20/x86_64/repodata/aceb04dea8a83b27fa7a6ab0de63499d75fc409d5c1c6aacf376f11d656c9eca-filelists.sqlite.bz2"
... does actually not exist.
Please see http://mirror.uoregon.edu/fedora/lin...6_64/repodata/


No reason to use # yum provides */<***>
You know the result. See post #4.

You can just do
# yum install policycoreutils-gui system-config-httpd system-config-samba

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