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jefro 01-29-2018 05:35 PM
We'd have to know the kernel level to decide how the old distro named the drives, the hda and sda deal was a scsi use and may apply here. The fstab might help along with grub or other loader information.

I suspect that the sata driver for the motherboard is missing. ??

bs=1M conv=noerror wouldn't have been what I'd have used. https://superuser.com/questions/6225...ync-noerror-do

I like to know about errors. Might consider using file based copy means.

RockDoctor 01-29-2018 07:33 PM
Don't believe I've closed an IDE drive to a SATA drive, but I did use fsarchiver to pack up partitions on my old IDE drive and move them to the new SATA drive when I upgraded my desktop PC. Had to make some changes to /etc/fstab to get the partitions properly identified, and had to reinstall grub, but maybe that more work than the OP wants to do.

wpeckham 01-30-2018 06:48 AM
I have done such migrations, but I knew exactly what version of what distribution I was working on, and knew exactly where to make changes in the process. This one is a guessing game.

TB0ne 01-30-2018 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzyfizz (Post 5812887)
The software is run by a company that has discontinued support for their hardware FTP server device. The system allows us to send files to multiple recipients at the same time. Both internally and externally.

EG; We want to send a collection of photos to 20 recipients. We drag and drop the photos onto a 'group' of recipients. The FTP server then transmits those photos to all the recipients in one go without having to drag and drop 20 times. This can be achieved externally too.

The cost to replace this costs thousands of pounds. Money we don't have.

I've researched a replacement system many times but have always drawn a blank. If you know of a similar system, please let me know.
After further thought, I've bolded two lines in your reply for emphasis. Because it would SEEM (to me), that you're trying to get around having to purchase a new system by 'cloning' a hardware appliance drive. Which the vendor sold for "thousands of pounds" (which seems unlikely, honestly, for an FTP Server). In short, circumventing their copy protection, and pirating their software.

Further, you're still not able to provide any details about the version/distro of Linux, give us hardware specs, or describe the operating environment. Not even the NAME of this appliance. Can you provide ANY details???

fizzyfizz 01-30-2018 07:11 AM
TB0ne can I get an email address for you?

TB0ne 01-30-2018 07:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzyfizz (Post 5813318)
TB0ne can I get an email address for you?
No, you cannot. If you have something to post, then this is the place for it.

fizzyfizz 01-30-2018 07:17 AM
Ok, I'll leave it at that. FYI, there is NO fraudulent activity taking place and I have no idea what the original version of Linux is/was. But at a guess, Red Hat.

TB0ne 01-30-2018 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzyfizz (Post 5813322)
Ok, I'll leave it at that. FYI, there is NO fraudulent activity taking place and I have no idea what the original version of Linux is/was. But at a guess, Red Hat.
Great, so why can't you then tell us the name of this particular appliance, or answer any of the questions about the environment you've been asked??? You've been asked what kind of interface (you say "drag n drop"...from what? to what? what kind of client?) You mention that this FTP 'transmits' files to users (FTP is not a push client)...do the users run any special software on THEIR end?

You asked for alternatives; we can try to help you with that, but we need a lot more than "It uses FTP and you can drag files to it to send to multiple users". Filezilla with ANY FTP server fits that description.

keefaz 01-30-2018 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzyfizz (Post 5812887)
The software is run by a company that has discontinued support for their hardware FTP server device. The system allows us to send files to multiple recipients at the same time. Both internally and externally.

EG; We want to send a collection of photos to 20 recipients. We drag and drop the photos onto a 'group' of recipients. The FTP server then transmits those photos to all the recipients in one go without having to drag and drop 20 times. This can be achieved externally too.

The cost to replace this costs thousands of pounds. Money we don't have.

I've researched a replacement system many times but have always drawn a blank. If you know of a similar system, please let me know.
Maybe this could be emulated using inotifywatch on a directory then execute a script if moved_to event occurred

wpeckham 01-30-2018 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keefaz (Post 5813330)
Maybe this could be emulated using inotifywatch on a directory then execute a script if moved_to event occurred
I am sure that any of the more experienced of us could come up with a dozen different ways to replicate the functionality using scripts and services, and with more security. There is certainly more to the story than we now have and I am reluctant to create a solution for a problem that may be poorly defined, unethical, or possibly even illegal!

TB0ne 01-31-2018 07:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpeckham (Post 5813597)
I am sure that any of the more experienced of us could come up with a dozen different ways to replicate the functionality using scripts and services, and with more security. There is certainly more to the story than we now have and I am reluctant to create a solution for a problem that may be poorly defined, unethical, or possibly even illegal!
Agreed; the deafening silence when asked about the name of the device and other information is telling. Like you say, it's not complicated to come up with a solution (and there probably ARE solutions available already), but we have no details. Can't offer suggestions as to what to do/try/look at, when you have no idea what you're comparing it WITH.

voleg 01-31-2018 10:56 AM
You should boot from rescue CD of same distribution, mount your cloned disk and chroot in it.
Then you have to rebuild initrd image to kernel your OS use (not for rescue CD kernel!)
Before that you should probably fix /etc/modprobe.conf or similar.
Check /boot/grub/grub.cfg or similar to verify you will use your new initrd.
Exit, exit, reboot

Good luck.

TB0ne 01-31-2018 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by voleg (Post 5813874)
You should boot from rescue CD of same distribution, mount your cloned disk and chroot in it.
Then you have to rebuild initrd image to kernel your OS use (not for rescue CD kernel!)
Before that you should probably fix /etc/modprobe.conf or similar.
Check /boot/grub/grub.cfg or similar to verify you will use your new initrd.
Exit, exit, reboot

Good luck.
...except the OP has stated that this is an old hardware appliance, no longer supported by vendor, and they don't know the distro on the system. And that they don't have matching hardware, and are trying to get a new disk to boot on new hardware, which doesn't match (IDE to SATA).

jefro 01-31-2018 03:12 PM
Members, please try to address the original post in technical replies.

It most likely will be fairly easy to set this new system running on modern hardware. However, it is also possible that this may work under a virtual machine.
It may be possible to use some add-on card for ide drives.

TB0ne 02-01-2018 08:26 AM
Quite true on all counts; but the OP has clearly stated that this is a vendor-supplied appliance. It is no longer supported by the vendor, ...

removed non-technical parts


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