So long as you don't intend on drying your socks on your CPU's heatsink, it should be as stable as any other Linux... maybe

Mine has been up except for warm boots into other Operating Systems for learning(and some work in Windows that involved biblical refs not available for Linux yet), ever since rc3 (I upgraded over that to rc4, then upgraded to final as well as installing it in some spare space diredtly (9.0 Final). It is smoother and appears to ba as stable as or more stable than 8+, ANY 8+. It gets along with Java 2 (Sun) better than any 8+, thus iit is the best distro I know of to run Netscape 7.0 and StarOffice 6.0 on.

John.

I prefer Phoenix 0.3 (Mozilla stripped) and Openoffice myself.

Being an ex-(mostly)Windows user, I like something reasonably familiar and thus like Full Netscape. Also, I wanted the docs for OOo, so I purchased StarOffice 6.0 (so close to OOo as far as "behavior" it is not funny, the docs are useful, and it is a way to pay back a company that has to pay programmers (though in this case those of another company in part) for their time and effort.

But that is one of the beauties of Linux and POSIX stuff-- it can be infinitely customized if one is skilled enough.

John.

FINALLY GOT ROADRUNNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH FOR BROADBAND!!!

sorry about that. just excited.

Ok, I gave it 10 on your scale.

I downloaded it last night and installed it. Very good newbie distro. I did like the fact that it even setup the cdroms to SCSI emulation. did not have to do it manually. I would definatly suggest this for someone new to linux.

But, as for me. I will stick with my SUSE 8.0. I just like the feel of it better. That is the Awesome thing about Linux, Freedom of Choice.

And jdii1215 i was wondering what kind of biblical refs you where referring to. Bible or something else?

ddpicard

Well, I've had it on for about a week now and in general I'm quite impressed, but not over enthusiastic about these changes!
1) They've upgraded to a newer version of SawFish that is GTK2 compliant. Now, this isn't Mandrake's fault, but this version seems to have a few problems with the menu. Every now and then when you click the menu button (top left of window) it doesn't come up... however, the menu program was initialised (can see it in ps output), and the only way you can try again to get the menu is to kill the process.
2) They have moved the uninstall packages function of rpmdrake to another package... rpmdrake-remove. This is fine for those that use the Mandrake Control Center for everything, but it was a little confusing to start with.

These are only very minor quibbles, and should not be taken as serious problems. Mandrake is designed for the complete newbie, and so these problems wouldn't manifest themselves. Most newbies would only be accessing SawFish through Gnome, in which case this problem won't arise (I hope ). Most newbies won't be running rpmdrake from the commandline, so they wouldn't run into this splitting of the program.

Other than these, I would say that it's almost there.

Good work Mandy guys (ang gals)!

I need the following versions locally online, and would rather multiboot than emulate with paid for emulators:

NIV
NLT
NKJV
NASB
KJV (this I have in Linux also)

The following are learning tools I use:

Large parts of the Logos Scholar package. (I have most of the contents\components from about 5 packages I have already purchased for Windows.) and Quickverse 5.0.

The CCEL.org archives cannot be read in Linux AFAIK, in any form they are offered in. http://www.ccel.org/ if you have never been there.

I can access the Leadership Bible(Zondervan) from Wine if I tell it where its files are very time I use it, as far as NIV only. KJV is available.

I can myself go online for a lot of the info, but want in the long run to migrate a local church to Linux. That means I need the ability to run large and varied resources in Linux. If you or anyone know how to run Logos from Wine, that would be good to know. I would like to establish 2-3 biblical reference computers for kids\teens and these woudl not be online-to-web boxes--they need to be totally legal and relatively inexpensive. I have boxes donated that would suit except for the methodology to either run main-line biblical study packs that exist, or to find such for Linux. Spending $500.00 in software per box is out of the question. Long run, I would like to see a thin-client to TLSP server accessed biblical research elibrary.

Ideas????

John.

Sorry jdii1215,

But, I am not going to be much help. All the Bible software that I use is from Crosswire.org. I'm guessing that is where you got your Bible software also. If not where?

The problem is that NIV, NLT, NKJV, NASB are all copyrited and no open source or freeware software can provide them. I have the same problem. My Dad and I are Missionaries to Mexico and I would love to have the Spanish Reina-Valera Revised 1960 for my BibleTime software.

I'm sure that the Study Materials on Crosswire.org are not the same as your Scholar Packages. But for my studies they are fine and then I do the same and search for other studies online. Sorry I don't have a better solution. If you should come across something please let me know. And I will do the same.

I think it is Great that you are considering migrating a small church over to Linux and I would be very interested in hearing how that goes.

If you should want to send an email my address is ddpicard@rgv.rr.com

ddpicard

Yes, they would be commercial for those-- or something that would be Logos module compatible for Linux(then we could get the modules legally as modules from Logos). I will look at Crosswire and see what they have, did not know about them.

John.

ahhh ok. check them out. Crosswire.org has alot of modules. Like:

KJV
A Conservative Version
American King James Version
Bible in Basic English
Just to name a couple.

And also alot of Comentaries and Dictionaries.
Strongs, Hebrew,MHC,Treasury of Scripture Knowledge.
It's cool because the windows version and the linux versions use the same modules.

ddpicard

Thank you, this will help some. I will do some talking to folks, see if can get them to pub modules for the SWORD Project that will validate keys-- If logos can be persuaded to sell SWORD modules or to provide a key validation and unlock algortihm for their keys, it might be a thing where they could distribute license fees for a fee and then SWORD could unlock??? Would this be feasible???

You posted while I posted-- I am grabbing the ISO now. I looked at the list, impressive in what they offer!

John.

Best thing would be to contact people. On the Crosswire page they want people to contact the "locked" modules and they figure that if enough people would do this maybe they would release them from copyright.

I'm not to sure what crosswire would have to do to be able to provide them. I'm sure they would have to sell them. Just don't know what else or other charges THEY would have to pay for selling them. Might not be worth the hassle for them being a Non-Profit group.

This is a whole other debate, but it sure is frutrating for these companies to copyright the Word of God. I know they went through a lot to tranlate and all but the KJV still makes alot of money on Bible sales.

Oh well, hope you have sucess.

dave

Yes, will contact folks, like publishers!!!

Just downloaded Mandy 9.0 and burned it. I'm having a little trouble with the monitor and graphics cards but hope to have it fixed it the morning

If you still have problems, please let us know what monitor and cards you have. I am going to run RedHat 8.0 side by side with Mandrake 8.0 (same box, not simultaneously-- yet). Later, will try SuSE 8.1 also. And I need to burn and look a SWORD Project ISO too.

John.