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10-24-2008, 06:07 PM
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Making a DVD with Linux that plays in a stand alone player??
I've been trying to burn a DVD with Linux that will play in a stand alone DVD player with no luck so far. DVDShrink and Nero has always worked perfectly on Microsoft machines. This time I used Wine with DVDShrink to make the video files on the HD.
My first attempt at burning was with Puppy Linux using pBurn. The end result was a "data" disk with the audio_ts and video_ts folders. Computers can see and play the vob files but the disk does not play in a stand alone and is not recognized as a DVD by DVD software.
My latest attempt was with Sabayon Linux using K3b. I started up a "video DVD project" and burned a disk with audio_ts and video_ts folders. The end result is a weird DVD that will play with Kaffeine but will not play in a stand alone and caused "invalid media type" error on a M$ XP machine??
How do you burn a proper video DVD with Linux?
What is the difference between a Data DVD and one that will play in a standalone?
TIA!
Last edited by lakedude; 10-25-2008 at 01:57 AM.
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10-24-2008, 08:37 PM
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burn dvd
Hi.You need to use your package manager to install the app called devede.This will burn a disk that will play in dvd players and PS3s etc.Ive been using it for around a year for turning .avi files into playable dvd's.Cheers.
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10-24-2008, 09:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hoodooman
Hi.You need to use your package manager to install the app called devede.This will burn a disk that will play in dvd players and PS3s etc.Ive been using it for around a year for turning .avi files into playable dvd's.Cheers.
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Thanks a bunch. I'll check that out.
BTW this isn't a DVD+/-R W issue or a HD file format issue. I've used XP and Nero to burn the same exact video files to DVD+R and they work fine......
Here is a pic of me doing my best with K3b:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9...apshot1gn6.png
Here is what Vista sees:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4...adyhawkhx3.jpg
Notice that the top window shows the disk as 4.33GB in UDF file system.
Last edited by lakedude; 10-25-2008 at 01:52 AM.
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10-25-2008, 04:08 PM
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http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9...onpuppybr3.png
This is what the burned DVD looks like with Puppy Linux. None of my MicroSoft machines can read the disk and all of my Linux machines can read and play the disk no problem. What is going on here?
Last edited by lakedude; 10-25-2008 at 09:04 PM.
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10-25-2008, 06:03 PM
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I use the following sequence to rip and burn a DVD, if that's what you're looking for.
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dvdbackup -v1 -M -i/dev/dvd -o/data/junk
mkisofs -dvd-video -oMOVIE_NAME.iso /data/junk/MOVIE_NAME
Clearly you can put it anywhere you like and MOVIE_NAME is determined by what is ripped. After that, in Debian, I right click, select "Write to Disc" and it's burned as an image.
If you want to shrink it or anything else, I can't help you.
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10-25-2008, 09:11 PM
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Thanks for all the ideas. While I'm curious as to the source of the trouble with K3b, I've discovered some workarounds.
I need to rip and shrink then burn. DVDShrink handles the ripping and shrinking so burning was the only real problem. The standard output of DVDShrink are audio_ts and video_ts hard drive folders.
Puppy 4.1 with Pdvdrsab seems to be working with the the folders created by DVDShrink except Pdvdrsab fails to write the audio_ts folder. This may be OK because nothing is ever in the audio_ts folder anyhow.
The method I'm using as we speak is to have DVDShrink make an ISO image instead of audio_ts and video_ts hard drive folders......
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10-25-2008, 09:24 PM
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OK instead of having DVDShrink make hard drive folders I had it make an ISO instead. Using growisofs (via burniso2cd) to burn the result right now. I'm pretty sure it is going to work. Thanks again for the help.
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10-28-2008, 01:58 PM
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Any update on your success? Or failure?
I burned my first DVDs today and they wont play in my stand alone player. Well I did get one of them to play for at least part of one video, but no menu or anything. Created with videolink so I could have a menu and not learn french / greek / geek to make a menu. It plays fine in linux of course. And in Windows XP (WinDVD) and Windows Vista (DVD Play) it plays fine.
Burned to a DVD+RW and DVD-R with growisofs, just in case the media type made a difference.
growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvdrw=./dvd.iso
It seemed to have ignored the speed parameter though. I just tried another one with -burnout and it basically seemed ignored too. Although it may have taken a few more seconds to start the burn. This disc only contains about 7 minutes of footage (combined) from some test cam shots that I shot at best buy the other week with a cam I'm thinking of buying.
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Perhaps someone could clarify for me the aspect ratio of the menu background for NTSC. The resolution is obviously 720x480 for NTSC. But the specs says 81 dpi (x) by 72 dpi (y). Just how does that relate to the source aspect ratio? If I use a screen shot or other digital image for the menu background it gets elongated vertically. So I apparently need to use something greater than 480 relative to 720 for the vertical resolution.
720/480 = 1.5
4/3 = 1.3333
81/72 = 1.125
720/1.5 = y = 480
720/1.33 = y = 540
720/1.25 = y = 576
720/1.2 = y = 600
720 / 1.125 = y = 640
So, if I want to keep my aspect ratio, what Y resolution would I use, relative to the 720 of X? 640? 540? 480? 576? 600? Perhaps I'm just over thinking it. And any one of the above could be assumed based on limited information. If the picture looks normal on my monitor, do I assume a 1.33 aspect ratio, so 540? Or do I assume any of the other possbilities? source image is 1:1? monitor is 8:5 footage is 16:9? pixel width is traditionally 4:3? Since it's dpi (dots per inch) perhaps I should consult a printer manual. I'm leaning towards 540 ((1.125/1.5)*720) or (720/(4/3)). But I'm not entirely sure. Gotta be closer than 480 though. So if I take a 1440x1080 image and scale it to 720x480 while obliterating it's aspect ratio, will that look right?
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10-28-2008, 10:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure switching to the ISO method works but I won't be completely sure for a couple of days.
The folder method was not allowing Windows based machines to read the finished DVD.
The ISO method does allow M$ based DVD Player software to work correctly for sure. The ISO method works on both Linux and Windows systems.
Thing is I don't own a standalone DVD player myself so the disks can't be checked till a coworker comes back to work.
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10-29-2008, 09:44 AM
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I use devede and it works great. Simple and straight forward to use.
Keith
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10-29-2008, 10:19 AM
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Last edited by farslayer; 10-29-2008 at 10:26 AM.
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10-29-2008, 08:45 PM
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Update:
The ISO method works perfect!
Still can't get Linux to properly burn a DVD using the audio_ts, video_ts method, but I don't really care since the ISO method works and is more convenient anyhow.
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10-29-2008, 09:49 PM
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I've tried the spumux and dvdauthor way of menus.
And burned it with cdrecord (wodim) and growisofs.
cdrecord -dev=ATAPI:/dev/dvdrw -speed=1 -pad -dao ./dvd.iso
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=./dvd.iso
neither plays on the stand alone. But it looks cool in ogle with an animated looping image below the menu items. I did have to pre-format the dvd+rw disc when using the cdrecord method, but not on the dvd-r disc.
A number of quirks to overcome. I overlayed a static image (menu background) on the source images and convert from imagemagick generated a 16 bit color image from two 8 bit color images. Which for some reason wasn't moviable with ffmpeg. I added -depth 8 to the convert and all is fine now. I'm not quite sure if I needed to do that, but I did it anyway since I was using a movie instead of a background image.
$ ffmpeg -r 30000/1001 -i dvd%03d.png -sameq -target ntsc-dvd output.mpeg
And for spumux, it appears that menu background / selected / highlighted images all need to share the same palette, in addition to only having 4 colors. So convert to the rescue again.
$ convert -type Palette -map menu_highlight.png menu_background_old.png menu_background_new.png
On the looping menu footage, it only loops once. Unless you add a <post> with a jump cell 1 in there. I'm not quite sure where cell 1 is defined, but it works. Some quirks as xine sort of stutters when it reaches the loop point. Ogle plays through the loop just fine and smooth. And I still have my aspect ratio off. Not that I know what it looks like on an SD tv yet. I suppose I'll try the other dvd+rw devices on the other desktops if I can't ID why it's not playing on my stand alone. But that's why I bought the cheap 50 stack of DVD-Rs. Trail and Error.
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