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Old 06-10-2004, 09:15 PM   #1
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Linux Remote Desktop Services??


I saw a windows network today. Every user on the network is given a username and password to log into their computer.

The neat thing was that it didn't matter which computer you used - as soon as Bob entered his username and password he was presented with his own desktop and his own files.

Also, laptops users were able to plug into the internet at any remote location, login with their username and password and be presented with the exact same desktop as if they logged in to a computer on the physical network. (Using regular DSL.)

My question is what is the technology behind this? It is Windows Terminal Services? Or Remote Desktop Services? Or something else...

I would like to duplicate this very cool feature on a linux network.

Any pointers?

Thanks!
 
Old 06-10-2004, 09:29 PM   #2
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Okay I believe it is the Terminal Services which uses the RDP protocol.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...s/terminal.asp

And there is also the Citrix Independent Computing Architecture (ICA) protocol.


Is there a RDP Server for linux ??
 
Old 06-10-2004, 09:37 PM   #3
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Me again lol :-)

What I would like to do is set up a server with a remote desktop server running.

Then I can create a boot-cd running an linux clients os such as PIXES:
http://pxes.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html

Imagine being able to sit at any internet-connected computer anwhere, boot from a cd or usb key, and get your own, secure desktop! Cool.
 
Old 06-10-2004, 09:59 PM   #4
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NX Server, from http://www.nomachine.com is exactly what I am looking for! Thanks everyone - er, me.

The only problem is a commericial product ($) and I'd rather use a free version....
 
Old 06-11-2004, 04:00 AM   #5
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You may use vncserver. It is available for almost every unices.
Vnc-tight is included in Mandrake 10.0 Official. Make a search for
the phrase ¨vncserver download¨.
 
Old 06-11-2004, 08:07 AM   #6
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You want to check

http://www.ltsp.org

You should find information about this kind of set-up there.
 
Old 06-11-2004, 08:12 PM   #7
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But VNC isn't nearly as fast or secure as RDP
 
Old 06-11-2004, 11:09 PM   #8
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Actually, originating with WINNT 4, computers could be set up to access profile settings from the server, which included information such as the desktop image, available programs, permissions for internet usage, and what the user could or couldn't do on the computer. It's used mostly at businesses for security, keeping people from doing things they shouldn't, but also allows them to access their files and correct level of "computing power" from anywhere on the network. I'm not sure if this would work over the internet or not (I'm pretty sure it would, but I think it would be quite slow to log on).

VNC is quite different, but it sounds more like what you want to do, as it is easy to set up. However, you should keep in mind that VNC controls a computer remotely over the internet, which means you have to send the command, wait for the computer to excecute it, then wait for the information to come back as to how everything looks. With the setup I spoke of before, all your settings and files are transfered, but all the computing is done on whatever machine you are using, so there is no lag whatsoever. The only problem is if you're on a random computer that doesn't have the same applications installed, you wouldn't be able to use them.

So, final word: If you're only dealing with an internal network, go with the first kind of setup (aso available for linux), but if you want to access your exact computer from anywhere, go with the second.
 
Old 06-12-2004, 06:01 PM   #9
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Thanks for the comments Irving.

You should try out the live demo of NX Server at:
http://www.nomachine.com/testdrive.php


Quite amazing speed over the internet!




"desktop.kdenews.org: KDE developers announce support for NX client and server functionalities"
http://www.nomachine.com/news_web_read.php?idnews=86

"Slashdot: Proxy Servers Lighten Up X"
http://www.nomachine.com/news_web_read.php?idnews=88
 
Old 12-08-2004, 11:20 PM   #10
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hey guys, i know this is a little off topic, but i'm currently trying nx server and i want to be able to log into fedora with a windows machine useing 'remote desktop' can i do that? if so could someone point me in the direction of how to?
 
Old 12-09-2004, 05:41 AM   #11
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why not try out x11 forwarding over ssh and then use the x server on the machine you are using or if windows download one! for when im on a windows machine and need to use my linux server (no moniter,keyboard or mouse) i will connect to it with ssh through putty and if i need to use a gui i enable x11 forwarding in putty and login as normal and then start up my x server on windows (X connect pro) then go back to putty and typ xterm then open up your x session and type startkde and there you have it a remote desktop

hope this helps
 
Old 12-09-2004, 05:59 AM   #12
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look at post from irving and berrance, i believe RDP/MSTerminalServices is not exactly what you search.
TS can be configured in admin-mode or in application mode (ability for users to start programms installed on server).
on a LAN: remote X
over INTERNET: ssh with X forwarding
 
Old 12-09-2004, 05:44 PM   #13
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hi guys, thats not really want i'm looking for, i want to be able to download a rdp server or something along those lines for my fedora box and when i'm at a windows box i want to be able to click on the remote desktop icon and just be able to log into fedora, much the same as you can log into a 2000 server box, if thats possable i would love to know how.

but x11 forwarding does look interesting, the only thing is i can't seam to get it working right, i can log in and use the gaphical app's such as rdesktop and putty, but they come up on the server screen, not on my client screen, i'm sure it's got something to do with the DISPLAY=:0.0 fuction, but if anyone has any items on how to help that'd be great!

Last edited by paul_mat; 12-10-2004 at 05:50 AM.
 
Old 12-13-2004, 05:17 PM   #14
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i'm not sure if this is what i'm looking for, i've just had a bit of a stuff up with my fedora box so i'm re-installing it, but i've just found this website that looks just as promising as it dose defeating, but if it is the right thing then i thought i'd show the rest of you's

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/PLD/dis....0-1.i386.html
 
Old 12-13-2004, 05:17 PM   #15
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i'm not sure if this is what i'm looking for, i've just had a bit of a stuff up with my fedora box so i'm re-installing it, but i've just found this website that looks just as promising as it dose defeating, but if it is the right thing then i thought i'd show the rest of you's

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/PLD/dis....0-1.i386.html
 
  


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