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Old 08-20-2005, 09:16 PM   #1
monami
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Linux not recognising NTFS


I am using Redhat Linux 4 Enterprise with kernel 2.6.9.5 EL.

I Have Win XP on machine also.

Have downloaded the rpm fm sourceforge.net to recognise ntfs partions and data in them.

Heave installed using rpm -i ... command.But it still does not mount the WIN XP partition, saying NTFS filesystem not recognised.

Anyone, pls advise.Thks in advance.
 
Old 08-20-2005, 09:56 PM   #2
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here's a good place to start: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

hth --Jonas
 
Old 08-20-2005, 10:14 PM   #3
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Jonas was correct, you should indeed read the document he linked you to - you have a lot to learn from it. But to answer your question - you most likely need to just enable NTFS read support for your kernel. I am using a friends computer that doesn't have Linux installed so I can't bring up menuconfig and tell you exactly where to find this option, but I know that it is under a menu with a name similar to "Filesystems" or some such thing. Browse around menuconfig for filesystem options and you will see the NTFS option. Note that at this time, the Linux kernel NTFS module provides only read access to NTFS partitions. If you are interested in write access, you might want to check out Captive NTFS. More information on everything I mentioned here can be found on google or this site. What Jonas told you (in effect) was dead on - learn to use search tools: they will become your best friend while learning linux.

hope this helps,
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:22 PM   #4
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What Jonas told you (in effect) was dead on - learn to use search tools
Actually, I meant something more in the lines of `elaborate *much*, *much*, *much* more on that.'

But `STFW' is OK too

--Jonas
 
Old 08-20-2005, 11:24 PM   #5
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try kernel compilation

dear friend , @ first u check ur kernal is support the NTFS
is not u start the kernal compilation , there is an option to NTFS support
try it

csajjad@gmail.com
 
Old 08-21-2005, 03:56 AM   #6
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Re: try kernel compilation

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Originally posted by sajjadc
dear friend , @ first u check ur kernal is support the NTFS
is not u start the kernal compilation , there is an option to NTFS support
try it

csajjad@gmail.com
Then you press "Spell check" at the bottom of the reply page. You also read about what is the Kernel, not kernal under any circumstances. Also, you check what the previous posters said so you won't repeat the same thing. And finally, you don't post your e-mail address publicly so every spam bot can pick it up.
 
Old 08-21-2005, 04:19 AM   #7
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USB reliance cdmA HELP

My Reliance CDMA works thru USB on Win XP.When I go to Linux,the phone switches off immediately.Can anyone explain why and how to fix it?
 
Old 08-21-2005, 04:46 AM   #8
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One question per thread please

You just got valuable advice from several people. Perhaps you should read the answers to your query a bit more carefully. You have quite obviously not paid close attention to anything that was posted. First you clearly did not read the site listed at Jonas' post, because you are still asking a question that does not provide any more information that your initial post (it is in fact essentially the same as the initial post). Did you try compiling NTFS support into your kernel like I suggested originally? It is very likely that this is the solution to your problem. I am not going to write you a step-by-step guide to configuring your kernel, because this information exists in abundance elsewhere. Use google and this site's search feature to find more information on the instructions that I gave you in my first post. If you have already done so, please give us an idea of what happened when you tried it, so we can determine why that failed. There are many people that would love to help you, but you have to help us do so, by providing us with information that will allow us to determine what exactly you need.

Good Luck,
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Old 08-21-2005, 05:01 AM   #9
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for starters, post the output of
Code:
$ lsmod | grep ntfs
$ /sbin/modprobe -l | grep ntfs
/dev# for i in $(grep '^hd.$' <(ls -1)); do fdisk -l $i; done
$ cat /etc/fstab
and some logging of you trying to mount it (i.e. which command do you type, what's the response).

--Jonas
 
Old 08-21-2005, 05:16 AM   #10
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Originally posted by jonaskoelker
here's a good place to start: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

hth --Jonas
I don't think you could have posted more useless link if you had tried.

To the original poster, don't let the search nazis get you down, everyone starts somewhere, some just seem to forget this and turn into dicks, and forget why people are on forums, to get and give HELP, not condescension.


http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/instructions.html This should get you on the right path

Find the rpm you need
download
install rpm
load module
make sure you computer understands NTFS now
make directory
mount NTFS partition/drive to directory with permissions
update /etc/fstab

If you follow the instructions in the link I gave you, you will have NTFS support.
 
Old 08-21-2005, 06:24 AM   #11
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Thks 92b16vx. I was wondering that if someone took the time to write a reply on a forum AND post a link, it wud be more useful than simply scolding a newbie.
I will try what u said.

Anyone have any replies to my question why USB CDMA is shutting off itself immediately after Linux loadup?
 
Old 08-21-2005, 06:46 AM   #12
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I don't think you could have posted more useless link if you had tried.
I disagree: I don't think I, or anyone else, could have posted a more use*full* link. Read the food metaphor.

Quote:
nazis ... dicks ... condescension.
I take it you're not talking about me.

If you are, please point out where I'm a `search nazi', where I'm a dick, and where I'm condescending.

Quote:
I was wondering that if someone took the time to write a reply on a forum AND post a link, it wud be more useful than simply scolding a newbie.
Who are you talking about? The only links i found were posted by me and 92b16vx, respectively. Am I scolding you?

--Jonas

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Old 08-21-2005, 10:04 AM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by 92b16vx
I don't think you could have posted more useless link if you had tried.

To the original poster, don't let the search nazis get you down, everyone starts somewhere, some just seem to forget this and turn into dicks, and forget why people are on forums, to get and give HELP, not condescension.


http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/instructions.html This should get you on the right path

Find the rpm you need
download
install rpm
load module
make sure you computer understands NTFS now
make directory
mount NTFS partition/drive to directory with permissions
update /etc/fstab

If you follow the instructions in the link I gave you, you will have NTFS support.
I think as a moderator I have to agree in this particular case, not all cases but this one I do. I didn't see any reason to just point the thread starter to a site that tells users "how to ask good questions" or the like.

His questions was clear of what he was looking for, his title was pretty much on the mark of describing his question, I see nothing really wrong here.

I think in some extreme cases, pointing members to such sites so they can ask better questions is called for but in this case, I'd have to think to myself that I've seen threads a thousand times worse than this one. If your going to only reply with that link to asking good questions on this thread, that means we might as well tag it on about 85% of all the other threads on this forum.

Also and always, if your going to point people to such sites, at least link them or give them a brief solution to get them started, this is along the same lines of telling people to just go RTFM, if we all did that, what's the point of having these forums in the first place? We'd just have a bunch of one page Linux help sites that simply say: "Got a Question, Go RTFM!"
 
Old 08-21-2005, 11:44 AM   #14
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trickykid: I may or may not have been right in *only* posting the link, but there seems to be consensus that in posting the link I DTRT.

I don't think, however, that it's right for 92b16vx to call us `nazis' and `dicks'--we *are* trying to help and not just making OPs life miserable.

---

to OP:
here's what I consider a better post, still within the boundaries of what I think you have the skills for.

--begin hypothetical post--
I have Red Hat Linux <version> w. kernel <version> installed on <partitions>; I also have Windows XP installed on <partitions>.

I downloaded http://foo.sf.net/path/frob.rpm and installed it with
Code:
# rpm -i --bizarre-option frob.rpm
I try to mount my NTFS partition:
Code:
# mount /dev/hda7
mount error: filesystem not recognized
How can I mount my NTFS partitions?
---end of hypothetical post---

See--I don't expect you to know about modprobe, lsmod or fstab (yet), just a little precision in the little information you *do* post.

Now may be a good time to at least *read* your fstab if you haven't already, and, if you feel up for it, read man {fstab,modprobe,lsmod} and play with them.

--Jonas
 
Old 08-21-2005, 05:48 PM   #15
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Thks.Will try & revert
 
  


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