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Old 04-03-2015, 09:42 AM   #1
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Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon Crashes Repeatedly


2015-04-03

In the past two years I didn't have any trouble in running Linux Mint 17.1 on two old HP computers, after I installed it from a live dvd. This morning I installed LM17.1 from a live USB stick on a Dell Dimension 2400 desktop and saw no problems throughout the process. But after each boot-up, LM17.1 always displays an error message indicating that Cinnamon crashed and the system was running only in Fallback Mode.

What can I do to fix this problem? Any advice or help will be much appreciated.

Julianvb

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Old 04-03-2015, 10:22 AM   #2
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julianvb,

This is a common problem with the Cinnamon version of Linux Mint for some users and it is often related to graphics hardware and video drivers in particular.

Try installing either the MATE or Xfce version of LM 17.1.

Neither of these two needs hardware acceleration enabled, unlike Cinnamon.

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Old 04-03-2015, 10:46 AM   #3
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beachboy2,

You are so right. A minute ago I was staring at my 15" HP momitor and thought my trouble might be related to it. Indeed, my other two lm17.1 systems are using 19" displays. I'll try to download and then install
the MATE or Xfce version of LM 17.1 as you suggested.

Thanks very much for your kind help.

Julianvb

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Old 04-03-2015, 10:51 AM   #4
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Can I use the dd command to copy the dvd's iso to a new USB?
Yes, indeed.

Just be absolutely certain that there is nothing valuable on that new USB drive before using dd.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 11:43 AM   #5
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beachboy2,

I've just captured some system info using 'inxi -FZ'. I hope it may shed some more light.

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Old 04-03-2015, 12:55 PM   #6
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My meal awaits me, so I must go.



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Old 04-20-2015, 09:05 AM   #7
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So which is better MATE or cinnamon? I'm having the same issue as beachboy2....i do believe my issue is graphics hardware related as when I tried to update Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 it warned me it would be laggy....so I am all for upgrading my graphics card just not sure what to go with
 
Old 04-21-2015, 07:55 AM   #8
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Sparky,

If you can afford it, upgrade your graphics card and install Cinnamon or Rebecca. I definitely prefer Rebecca to MATE. I've been running LM17.1 Rebecca on two 2004 HP machines and like it very much.

Julianvb

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Old 04-21-2015, 08:11 AM   #9
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2015-04-21,

Hi, Everyone,

I've finally resolved my Dell computer's LM17.1 problem by installing Ubuntu 12.04 instead of LM17.1 Rebecca or LM17.1 MATE. The machine's hardware is too old for Rebecca and MATE is vastly different from my expectations. So this machine is happily running both Windows XP and Ubuntu 12.04 once again but on a larger (80gb) hard drive.

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Old 04-21-2015, 08:11 AM   #10
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Here's what I'm currently running...honestly need help on what to upgrade to
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:47 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky_04 View Post
Here's what I'm currently running...honestly need help on what to upgrade to
according to this, nothing!

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System requirements:

x86 processor (Linux Mint 64-bit requires a 64-bit processor. Linux Mint 32-bit works on both 32-bit and 64-bit processors).
512MB RAM (1GB recommended for a comfortable usage).
9GB of disk space (20GB recommended).
Graphics card capable of 800600 resolution (1024768 recommended).
DVD drive or USB port
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2714
 
Old 04-21-2015, 09:20 AM   #12
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As far as graphics card is concerned I was under the impression that I needed something that supported 3D acceleration, that I didnt think I had, which is what lead me to think I needed to upgrade my graphics card.....forgive me for my ignorance
 
Old 04-22-2015, 01:53 AM   #13
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Hi, Sparky,

I was only speaking from my own experience. I now have both Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit and LM17.1 Rebecca 32-bit resident on a 2003 HP d530 SFF tabletop and only LM17.1 Rebecca running on a 2004 HP Compaq SR1020NX desktop. I've experienced no problems with the two Linux distros thus far on both machines. In other words, my hardware is sufficient for running LM17.1 Rebecca 32-bit.

The d530 system's major H/W consists of:
2.66GHz Intel Pentium 4 CPU
Integrated 82865G Intel graphics card
40GB HDD
1.0GB RAM

The SR1020NX system's major H/W consists of:
2.80GHz Intel Celeron CPU
Integrated 82845G Intel graphics card
80GB HDD
1.5GB RAM

I've indirectly mentioned in a previous post why my Dell Dimension 2400 failed to work with LM17.1 Rebecca 32-bit but was fine with LM17.1 MATE 32-bit. A look at the three systems' H/W data reveals the main culprit in the Dell's CPU speed. This is the reason why I am running only Windows XP and Ubuntu 12.04 on my 'not so robust' Dell. I myself really didn't find MATE to my liking as it differs too much from Rebecca and Ubuntu even though it works with my Dell system.

The Dell system's major H/W consists of:
2.20GHz Intel Pentium 4 CPU
Integrated 82845G Intel graphics card
80GB HDD
1.25GB RAM

I hope I've provided enough data on my three Linux systems for your reference. Please don't let me influence your decision one way or another as to which LM17.1 you'll select.

Julianvb

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Old 04-22-2015, 02:15 AM   #14
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Sparky 04,

There is no need to buy another graphics card.

All you need to do is install the MATE (or Xfce) version of Linux Mint 17.1.

Open a Terminal and then type:

Code:
sudo apt-get install mint-meta-mate
See this link for further details:

http://ulyssesonline.com/2013/03/06/...on-linux-mint/
 
  


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