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Old 03-23-2007, 05:45 PM   #1
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Linux browser


I'm looking for a browser with a small foot print that will still do what I want which is mainly show images.

I d/l epiphany and opera but can't figure out how to install. No browser I look at has install instructions. Is everyone how use linux know how to install all browsers? It is very frustrating and time consuming. Why don't they just say?

Do everybody be born with this knowlege in their head? I don't have it.
 
Old 03-23-2007, 05:48 PM   #2
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Now I see I have screwed up again. I see it wants me to tag the threat but I do not see a tag button.
 
Old 03-23-2007, 05:48 PM   #3
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more info.... which linux distrobution? KDE, GNOME, or other window manager? have you installed other software? special browser needs?

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Old 03-23-2007, 05:59 PM   #4
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It is Redhat and it is Gnome. The only software I install is special made software and it always has instructions so I just follow the instructions but none of the browsers, even now I look at Links which I do not think will meet my need and I d/l their manual but there is only installation for plug-ins or something like that, not on how to install the browser.
 
Old 03-23-2007, 06:17 PM   #5
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Which distribution are you using? Your distro should have a package manager that will make the installation easier.
 
Old 03-23-2007, 06:39 PM   #6
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Perhaps this might be of some use:

http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/695/

Personally, I've used Dillo and Skipstone. They're both very quick (dillo amazingly so), although Dillo is missing quite a lot of features that heavier browsers have (secure connection support is one, if I remember correctly). That is to be expected though! It depends largely on what you need the browser for; if it's just for general browsing, go for Dillo - most sites work fine on it and it'll load in a snap.
 
Old 03-23-2007, 07:09 PM   #7
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Thanks. Are there any good tutorials that just tell how to install these things because it seems very confusing to a newbie but since none of the browser makers include install instructins it makes me think this is some kind of common knowlege.

I think I have the latest distribution of Red Hat 'cause I had to figure that out to d/l Opera. I think it was 5 or something. I've been strugling with this for a couple of days. Today I decide to try Links and it is the same problem all over again. There must be some common knowlege that even newbies are supposed to know so that means there must be a web page that tells them. Right?

And thanks for the Browser suggestiions, security isn't a big thing because it's for an intranet.

Be well.
 
Old 03-23-2007, 07:51 PM   #8
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http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux

so they don't have a choice to download for redhat enterprise 5, (i'm assuming the entrprise 4 .rpm will work fine), if it doesn't just remove it... not terribly familiar with redhat, so i don't recall if you can doubleclick the .rpm to install it a la windows .exe, but you can do everything you need and more from the terminal.

for how to install/remove .rpms etc.
http://www.tfug.org/helpdesk/linux/rpm.html

but simply navigate to the directory where you downloaded the .rpm file, (your terminal should start in your home directory), but if it's on your desktop then type:
cd /home/your user name/Desktop/
(cd=change directory)
then type:
sudo rpm -ivh thisisanexample.rpm
(sudo gives you permission to install, rpm is the installer, i=install, v=verbose; to tell you whats going on, h=hash marks; to view progress.)
to remove an rpm
sudo rpm -e thisisanexample.rpm
(e=erase)

i'm sure this is in another post, but i hope this helps you

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Old 03-23-2007, 08:56 PM   #9
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Thanks. The Opera was an rpm. The epiphany was the most confusing becasue instead of instructions it had a manifesto. Epiphany looks like Links w/o an rpm. It just seems like it would be so much easier if they included installation instructions.

I think I remember a few months ago me and my supervisor tried installing Firefox on this same machine and again, no installation instruction, or maybe there were but they were hard to find.

For the links now, I think I found some instructions for newbies were it says it's very easy to install stuff you just run config, make, and install. So I did the first two but then I got worried, does the make automatically know what to make if it's in the right directory?

The other software I've installed in the past always had you give the name of the install script with the make like:

sh script_name make

But of course, that software came with installation instructions so you didn't have to guess and worry.
 
Old 03-24-2007, 05:59 AM   #10
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Quote:
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does the make automatically know what to make if it's in the right directory?
In general, yes.

There's usually a file included with source code called README, which is pretty self explanatory. Most of the time you also get one called INSTALL, which is also pretty self explanatory, and has instructions on how to compile and install the software - usually ./configure && make && make install.

If you've grabbed an rpm (essentially a precompiled binary package), then if I remember correctly, the command to install it is
Code:
rpm -Uvh <your_rpm_name_here>
With regard firefox, it's something of a strange one, in that you don't install it as such; simply extracting the contents of the archine (.tar.gz) and executing the firefox executable (actually a script) will launch firefox. It doesn't require root privileges to install.

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Old 03-24-2007, 01:48 PM   #11
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Thanks pcw. Links had a README but I didn't find any install instructions inside. Epiphany I freak out on as soon as I see the word "manifesto."

I just try to figure out the ground rules since nothing comes with install instructions that means there must be a common way to install everything so now I think it is configure -> make -> install.

I be getting my own linux work station instead of having to share a PC or just tweak little things on common linux boxes like something that should be simple like installing a browser and now I am worried did I make the right choice. Of course I did because the linux runs the software I need for work best, in fact I don't use the Windows version of it, I just go to a common Unix box when I need to run that software right now. But what is the rest of my experience going to be?! ^H and manifestos all the time? I hope not.

Is there good group for people who don't like to think about the OS all the time and just want to do what they want to do? I remember reading in a magazine years ago about how people should hardly ever have to think about the OS because it should do everything and allow the user to run their progams w/o stress but after years and years that OS still doesn't exist.
 
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