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Old 08-03-2003, 11:51 PM   #1
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kill init!

Running gentoo and rebuilt the kernel. rebooted and got the kernel panic: attempting to kill init. Now I know there are threads with this subject but none help me. Have tried to rebuild kernel, alas to no avail. Any one know now to fix the prob, thx
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From: torvalds@cs.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: New FAQ on kernel panics
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1993 02:19:37 +0200

Matt Welsh: "New FAQ on kernel panics" (Jan 15, 17:28):
> Linus, can we get a Q/A in the next FAQ about how to track down kernel
> panic messages with nm? I see a lot of these, and if people would be so
> kind as to tell us where the kernel is panicing (instead of just giving us
> the panic message) it would help a lot. Basically, a Q/A describing the
> contents of a standard panic message, what it means, etc. would be great.

Ok. Hope somebody can make a FAQ out of this...

The panic message essentially consists of:

- possible debugging messages printed out by the code before the panic:
these may be important to tell more closely why the kernel decided to
- one line of "Kernel panic: " and a small reason string (eg "unable to
mount root")
- if the panic happened while running the swapper task (aka idle task,
aka dummy task), you finally get a line that tells you that the
kernel is unable to sync any devices ("In swapper task - not
syncing"). This generally means that the panic happened in a
interrupt handler, as the idle task should never really panic on it's

After a kernel panic, the machine is essentially dead: keyboard
interrupts may still be working, so that you can switch VC's and press
ctrl-alt-del, but no tasks are running.

More interesting than the actual panic message is usually the debugging
messages prior to a panic. The debugging messages can happen without
the panic, but most debug messages that remain are pretty severe, so a
panic may be likely. The most interesting debugging messages have the

- possible extended explanation (eg "unable to handle kernel paging
request at address xxxxx").
- one line of reason + possible error code. This can look like
"General protection fault: 0000" or similar: it tells which exception
happened, and gives the error code. The error code is mostly zero,
but can sometimes be non-zero, which usually makes them more
- the place the error was reported, in the form "EIP: 0008:xxxxxxxx".
This is important: it should be used to later check up in which
kernel routine the error happened. The 0008 tells that it happened
in the kernel code segment (it can be something else, but it probably
shouldn't happen), and the "xxxxxxxx" is the offset of the offending
- the value of the 'fs' segment at the time of the exception: this is
usually 0017, and isn't really interesting any more (it's a leftover
from much earlier debugging sessions).
- the base and limit of the current code segment. These too are mostly
leftovers from older kernel versions: in the current kernels these
are unlikely to have anything important in them (but do report them
anyway for completeness).
- the pid of the current process and the value of the task register at
this point. Not generally of any importance.
- ten hexadecimal values representing the offending instruction. These
can be used to hand-disassemble what the offending instruction was,
and sometimes helps pinpoint it a bit more easily than just telling
where it happened. This is useful.

When doing a panic report (or a report of just a "normal" kernel error
without an actual panic), the thing to do is:

(a) write down the above debugging info exactly. Especially the EIP
and instruction hex-dump values are important, and need to be
correct for any kind of debugging.

(b) find out where the exception happened. With earlier kernels (0.12
and below), the address was generally enough for me: all the
kernels were generally the same, and I could look at my kernel
binary to find out where the error occurred. With newer kernels
that is no longer possible, so the person who reports the error
will have to pinpoint it a bit closer with respect to his
particular kernel version.

There are several ways to find out where the error happened, but the
simplest one is generally the following:

- get the kernel namelist with 'nm' and sort it according to address.
This is most easily done with the commands

# nm /usr/src/linux/tools/system | sort > namelist

where you have to make sure that the tools/system file actually
corresponds with the kernel that paniced.

- search for the place that seems to contain the offending
instructions. 'grep' is not really an option, as the exact address
is unlikely to be in the output of 'nm', so you'll have to eyeball
it. This is easy enough in a editor or using 'less'.

- send along about 10 lines of the nm output from around the offending
instruction. Assuming the EIP value reported by the panic was
00012345, the output of nm that is interesting might look like this:

00011fd4 T _sys_ssetmask
00011ff4 T _sys_sigpending
00012024 T _sys_sigsuspend
00012084 T _sys_signal
00012114 T _sys_sigaction
00012204 T _do_signal
000124ac T _kernel_mktime
000124ac t gcc2_compiled.
000124ac t mktime.o
00012560 t _get_long
00012560 t gcc2_compiled.

where the 00012345 address is in the _do_signal() function that seems
to extend from 00012204 to 000124ac. Note the "seems" - I prefer to
have a couple of lines of context around the offending place as that
can help pinpoint it a bit more: there may be static functions in the
kernel between the two addresses that won't show up in the namelist
or similar. Also, sending a couple of lines of context means that
bogus lines can safely be ignored (things like the "gcc2_compiled"
and "mktime.o" in the example). But don't try to prune out the bogus
lines yourself unless you know that you know what you are doing.

So, the result of it all? A bug-report with only the register dumps and
no other info is generally pretty useless - although if it also tells
what was going on that resulted in the error the bug might still be
possible to find. Together with a pinpoint where it happened, it's
generally much easier then to find exactly what went wrong, and fix it.

There are some circumstances where even all the above information won't
help: under some circumstances (a kernel jump to a nonexistent address
etc), the debugging info is simply bogus and not enough. So always try
to make the bugreport as complete as possible: if you can re-create the
error so that somebody else also can test it, please include that kind
of info ("if I do this, then that, then the kernel will crash with this



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