hi, im having two problem with the KDE desktop, one large and one relatively small. If anyone has any help they could offer i would be very grateful.

The main one is it failing to log off, giving me only a black screen and frozen mouse pointer every time i attempt to shut the pc down or log off. This used to happen only occassionally but the problem was resolved when i used a 'halt', 'init 0' or 'reboot' command from a prompt, but now it happens every time and using any one of the shutdown/log off prompt commands causes it to completely crash. I am therefore always forced to hard reset the whole machine which i realise is very bad for the OS. I have recently updated to KDE 3.2.3 which has failed to help. I have tried almost every [Ctrl + [Alt] combination including Backspace but to no avail.
help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The second small problem ive been having is since updating to KDE 3.2.3 (i used an rpm -Uvh --nodeps' command on every rpm package file), the bar at the bottom has begun to flicker more and programs in boxes regularly do this. has any1 else had the same problem?

i dont want to change to Gnome or Fluxbox as i like some of the KDE progs (mainly Kopete - is there any way to get this working on Gnome using KDE libraries?) but if i see no alternative then i will have to

thanks guys!!

yes you can generally use kde apps from any window manager
it's not perfectly threadsafe but should work....
First thing to do I think is just delete the .kde directory in your home directory
rm -R ./.kde
then when you restart it will give you the config wizard and rewrite all the files.
For the other problems I don't use graphical login and i a guessing you are so i can't help alot
if you are using graphical login youu can just do away with it and use startx from the command prompt
go to /etc/inittab and figure out your default runlevel
it will say something like
id:3:initdefault:
that means you are booting into run level 3
so go to /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
or wherever yours is and rename all links to gdm, kdm and xdm to start with a '_'
like:
mv S35kdm _S35kdm
like that -- then you will boot to terminal:
logon and type startx
if kde doesn't start
(you might need to create a file in your home directory)
~/.xinitrc
that says
(this is just bare bones -- you can read about this more later)
then when you logout of kde it goes back to the terminal
su
then just type
halt
or
reboot
or whatever
if you want to try to still use kdm
there is a file $KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
$KDEDIR is wherever kde is installed
there are alot of shutdown option in there if you are using kdm

I just started noticing it today and it is really annoying. The flickering of stuff on the task bar is REALLY distracting.

hi, thanks for your help, people - was worried i wouldnt get any replies

i have discovered a temporary fix for the problem, as when i enter a prompt with say [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [F1] and use the 'killall kdeinit' command, it logs off my user and goes back to the login screen with no apparent problems, suggesting its a problem with the OS shutting a process like kdeinit down. will removing the .kde directory reset any of my settings tho?

im glad im not the only one with the flickering task bar problem - it must be a problem introduced in KDE 3.2.3 - hav u just installed 3.2.3 epyon?

I installed it a couple days ago but I just started noticing the problem today. Haven't changed anything so I don't know why it would just start happening.

limewire is the main program to do it in my task bar, suggesting its to do with the processes that are currently carrying out a specific operation, such as writing to a disk.

It happens to xmms sometimes on mine and it happens to firefox and konqueror whenever a new page loads. Haven't noticed it in any other apps.

yea im pretty sure it must be linked to disk writing/accessing or active apps. it is strange tho. btw, do u know how to do screengrabs/dumps in KDE?

I usually use ksnapshot or the gimp

oh yea ksnapshot worked perfectly thanks.

have you got any other KDE problems?