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Old 06-22-2006, 07:30 AM   #1
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Unhappy k3b dvd's can't be read after burning.


Hi all,

I am having some problems burning DVD's of any type on my Fedora Core 5 system and I am hoping you can help. I have a dual boot system XP and FC5 in Nero on XP everything burns fine all the time, iso's DVD video's, data DVD's so I know the Hardware and Media are good!... In K3B everything burns but I can't view the finished burns on anything but Linux.. The DVD video's don't play in my standalone player it just spins up and puts the counter on 00:00 (not even recognizing it's a DVD) The data DVD don't work/can't read on windows but as soon as I put the DVD back in FC5 I can see everything as normal. I have a DVD player that will also read an ISO file system and playback things like avi's divx's mpg's etc and this also fails to read anything I have burnt in K3B on FC5. Does anyone have any ideas?

Also I have now installed neroLinux and re-tested and once again Nero burns work with no problem so the issue does appear to sit with k3b.. I have done a full yum update and re-tested but the problem remains with K3B which is a real shame as I am trying to get shot of windows and move fully over to Linux but I just keep hitting small road blocks like this.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 06-22-2006, 07:46 AM   #2
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Try growisofs instead of k3b
 
Old 06-22-2006, 07:55 AM   #3
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I will give growisofs a try but I am sure k3b calls it anyway? and it would be a shame to have to resort to a shell when apps such as k3b look so good and are starting to gain ground in the world of windows.. Still if it solves my problems I will try anything! I have never used growisofs from the shell before any pointers on how to burn standard iso data dvd's, DVD video's and ISO's etc? As I seem to be going through unsable media left right and centre.
 
Old 06-26-2006, 07:29 AM   #4
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Just an update but when burning a standard CD in K3B on my same atapi DVD 8x device - file was a single divx 690mb - once again everything works fine! This disc even plays in my standalone dvd/divx player - and it see's the iso directly. So this problem just appears to be with DVD's is anyone else having problems? Does anyone what the differences are when burning these different media types? It jut seems strange that neroLinux doesn't have the problem! Does anyone have any idea's for me? Thanks in advance Sm1ler
 
Old 06-26-2006, 09:53 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Sm1ler
Just an update but when burning a standard CD in K3B on my same atapi DVD 8x device - file was a single divx 690mb - once again everything works fine! This disc even plays in my standalone dvd/divx player - and it see's the iso directly. So this problem just appears to be with DVD's is anyone else having problems? Does anyone what the differences are when burning these different media types? It jut seems strange that neroLinux doesn't have the problem! Does anyone have any idea's for me? Thanks in advance Sm1ler
If possible, what I would do is first create a DVD ISO image using k3b and burn it separately using growisofs. You're right, k3b does call growisofs so there's no reason k3b should not work if growisofs does, but hey, let's just try narrowing down the path.

FYI, I use growisofs the following way:
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# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=myimage.iso
(I also use Fedora Core 5.)
 
Old 06-27-2006, 03:17 PM   #6
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Hi daihard, and thanks for your comments, have done what you recommended and what can I say!! The plot thickens..

I created an ISO image in k3b of a standard data DVD of approx 4.1Gb of info (Divx files for my standalone player) and then tried the following command as recommended to burn the ISO:-

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/home/username/k3b_image.iso

The outcome of this was again a failure with the same results... D'oh!
So I did a little more reading and thought I would try something with growisofs and an RW disc (as I seem to be running out of -r media and it would be nice to erase those that fail) so I tried the following :-
growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /home/username/Video/"same 4.1Gb of files just in a dir in *.avi file format"

This time the disc works perfectly in my standalone player! Also when I put the disc back in FC 5 it sees the media as a CDROM I may be mistaken but I think thats just a default volume label?

Do you think K3b is just passing some incorrect flags when burning iso file systems for me on DVD's? If so it seems very strange it's not causing others problems? Also this is still a step down for using it to burn video DVD's and that could open another whole “can of worms” for me.

One final test now is to do the same burn as above on my default media and see if it still works, I am willing to bet it will as I have been using this media brand and type in nero for over a year with until now only a single failure...

I would be grateful for any further help you can offer.
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:20 AM   #7
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OK, a further update, on my normal DVD-R media I had a fail! So the plot thickens again!.. Could this be totally hit and miss? I really am running out of idea's as the media can't be a problem as nero in both windows and Linux burn it fine every time - media is ritek g04 dye dvd-r datawrite. Before this issue only a single failure in over 1.5 years.
 
Old 06-28-2006, 11:23 PM   #8
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Sounds pretty weird. To be honest, I have no idea how k3b creates an ISO image because I usually use the command-line mkisofs tool to do the job. I will try to use k3b all the way through to see if I can reproduce the problem you're having. You're just creating a regular data DVD right?

Last edited by daihard; 06-28-2006 at 11:25 PM.
 
Old 06-29-2006, 01:11 AM   #9
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sm1ler

A movie DVD is a special subset of DVD. Try:mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -o /home/fred/Desktop/dvd.iso /home/fred/DVDmake//

DVDmake will be populated by a DVDmenu system made by a program like QDVDauthor. (it will generate two subdirectories (VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS) loaded with .vob (mpeg files) and other stuff.

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Old 06-29-2006, 01:26 AM   #10
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Hi,

Do you have any problems burning dvd's under windows? Maybe it's a hardware related issue...
 
Old 06-29-2006, 07:24 AM   #11
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Hi all, and thank you for your input.

daihard: I can confirm I (for the moment) am trying normal data DVD's most of which contain DIVX's directly in the media root - I will do somemore testing over the next day or so using other media types +rw and -rw for instance and see how they fair. My normal disc which I use are -r. I will also do more burns in NeroLinux to confirm I have no problems there.

lazlow: Thanks for your input - I havn't really got to this stage as yet but I do hope to in the future so anything else you can you can tell me about burning DVD video's in Linux would be helpful. Howver first I really need to find out why I can only burn usable DVD's using Nero (in either Linux or Windows).

schatoor: I can confirm this system is dual boot as I am trying my best to come away from Windows on to a fully Linux only system - I am using the same hardware and media and I have only ever had 1 failure in over 1.5years using Windows and Nero. If I use NeroLinux I also don't get the problem! This problem only seems to get me when using K3B and or growisofs - the Data DVD's cannot then be read by my standalone DVD/Divx player or on a windows system however they do still work in Linux!.

Once again thanks to you all for your help and support and any further advice will be well recieved.

Sm1ler
 
Old 07-22-2006, 10:38 AM   #12
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Today I went to visit a friend who is unable to boot into WinXP (he was running some anti-spyware software just prior to this happening). I suggested he use knoppix to at least backup his data. He has some mp3s he wanted saved. We were able to boot into knoppix 5, run k3b and burn the mp3s to a data DVD. The burn process went without incident and the data can be read from the data DVD after the burn. I thought it wise to test if the data could be read on other platforms, so we tried reading the disk on his Mac G4 and his other WinXP box. No luck with reading the disk in either platforms DVD drive. The DVD burner is a USB external (LG), so I plugged it in to both platforms and tried to read the disk, but still it was unreadable. This sounds very much like the problem that Sm1ler has referred to above. Is this a bug in K3b? Is there some settings I should change in K3b? Is there some other way to save the data?
 
Old 07-25-2006, 07:12 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Stuart E Anderson
Today I went to visit a friend who is unable to boot into WinXP (he was running some anti-spyware software just prior to this happening). I suggested he use knoppix to at least backup his data. He has some mp3s he wanted saved. We were able to boot into knoppix 5, run k3b and burn the mp3s to a data DVD. The burn process went without incident and the data can be read from the data DVD after the burn. I thought it wise to test if the data could be read on other platforms, so we tried reading the disk on his Mac G4 and his other WinXP box. No luck with reading the disk in either platforms DVD drive. The DVD burner is a USB external (LG), so I plugged it in to both platforms and tried to read the disk, but still it was unreadable. This sounds very much like the problem that Sm1ler has referred to above. Is this a bug in K3b? Is there some settings I should change in K3b? Is there some other way to save the data?
Hi, I had the same problem a month ago when I backed up my data. I was using K3B and Ubuntu.
It was a very scary situation.

The solution was to recover the data from the DVDs using a software called "Isobuster".

I learned the lesson, I will test the DVDs the next time before to format the hard drive.

I hope this help you to recover the data.

Last edited by VON_CAPO; 07-25-2006 at 07:16 AM.
 
Old 07-28-2006, 12:11 AM   #14
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Question Burning Data Disk with K3B

Hi
I had a similar problem, still do, with Burning using K3B and a Pioneer Burner in my unit. I run Fedora Core 5 and was having X Windows issues when I changed some hardware. I Archived my /home directory and then burned the archive to a DVD +r. As the archive was over 2 gigs it used a UDF format to burn it. I ran the test the burned file option and it showed an OK Burn.
I did a complete new install of Fedora Core 5, to get rid of my Video Driver problem and tried to mount and recover my archive. On the same DVD Burner I used to burn the Archive I was unable to see it at all. As well K3B is not installed under KDE and here I am looking for a way to mount the DVD?
Does anyone have an idea how I might proceed?
Thanks for any assistance...
Robert

Quote Below --------------->
Hi, I had the same problem a month ago when I backed up my data. I was using K3B and Ubuntu.
It was a very scary situation.

The solution was to recover the data from the DVDs using a software called "Isobuster".

I learned the lesson, I will test the DVDs the next time before to format the hard drive.

I hope this help you to recover the data.

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