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Old 01-21-2011, 12:35 PM   #1
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Issues to resolve please


I have nearly sorted out the running of the 64bit Opensuse v11.3. There are however a couple of issues I can't seem to resolve.
1 I have tried downloading Skype and it fails to load up when I click on the Icon. I downloaded it from the Skype site

2 I tried to download XnView and it fails to load and I have to abort. In fact there are several applications I have tried to download and I have to abort. But if we can resolve this then possibly it will resolve the rest.

3 I want to access a novel I am writing in Windows but it won't allow me to type on the document unless I save the document in Linux. Then I can work on it, But Windows is not allowing me then to see the workings I have done.

4 This may be the same issue. I have Nikon RAW files I want to see and edit in OpenSuse, but again it won't allow me to edit them. I have just downloaded everything I could for RAW files and I can see they are there now. Where as before only jpeg or tiff could be seen.

Both the RAW and Windows files are on another external hard drive. I have in Windows opened these files and partitions to share. Allowed anyone to edit them, thinking that it would accept me as the editor. No luck. Looking forward to your replies
Than you
 
Old 01-21-2011, 12:57 PM   #2
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Just a few observations before moving on to business. Please don't take offense.

Your question title could be improved by being specific about the subject.

You should only post one question per thread.

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1) I checked the Skype web site. I noticed that they have an installer package for OpenSuSE 11+. Is that the package that you downloaded? If yes then exactly how did you attempt to install it?

2) I checked the XnView web site and noticed that they have two installer package formats: RPM and tar.gz. Which did you download and what exactly did you do to install it?

3) Are the files on an NTFS partition? If yes then are you able to create a new file on that partition when you are running Linux?

4) See 3.

Addendum: The bit about being able to create a new file on the NTFS partition is intended to determine if the partition is mounted as read-only or read-write.
 
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:05 PM   #3
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Regarding question 1 (skype) what is the filename that you downloaded from skype?
The filename will determine how you should handle it.
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Old 01-21-2011, 02:44 PM   #4
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Okay answer to question one, is I downloaded the package. Then clicked on it. The package program came up and started running and loading it. I am not sure of any other way as the I searched the package programs on the system. You can tell I am green here. And no offense taken
 
Old 01-21-2011, 03:05 PM   #5
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To repeat: what is the name of the file that you downloaded from skype? Did it end in .rpm? .tar.bz2? .deb? something else?
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Old 01-21-2011, 03:09 PM   #6
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I clicked on the opensuse and it was .rpm. I don't catch on too quick I live on 200mg of morphine a day. So please be patient and I get there in the end
Thank you
 
Old 01-21-2011, 03:16 PM   #7
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I don't use an rpm distro but I think there is a program called rpm that you can use to install your package. From the command line enter the command
Code:
man rpm
and that should tell you how to install your package.
Edit: I checked my Debian installation and it does have rpm installed (why? I don't know). Anyway as root you can try
Code:
rpm -i {name of skype package}
which you should run from the folder that has the skype package in it. The name of the package should be something like skype-2.1.0.81-suse.i586.rpm
ciao,
jdk

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Old 01-22-2011, 03:17 AM   #8
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Thank you. I did the 'man rpm' and that was about as clear as mud. But your other command is the better bet.
 
Old 01-23-2011, 07:26 AM   #9
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I don't use an rpm distro but I think there is a program called rpm that you can use to install your package. From the command line enter the command
Code:
man rpm
and that should tell you how to install your package.
I'm sorry, but that isn't by any means the easy way, generally, and so is unhelpful for anyone new to Suse to suggest that they start there.

The rpm command is a command that can install packages, but it doesn't do anything with dependency checking and isn't repository-orientated. If you like the command-line way of working, use 'zypper', but, unless told otherwise, I'll assume that you would prefer a GUI-orientated tool, and so should use Yast > Install and Remove software. (Actually, there is also a menued command-line version (curses), but you can ignore that, unless you have no Graphical User Interface at all. With no GUI, most people would prefer the power of the zypper approach.)

If you are using kde
Menu > Computer > Install and remove software
(you can do the same in gnome, but the menu structure is a bit 'flatter', so you will find the installer at a higher level, but with more scrolling around to find it)

This will ask for the root password and go off and refresh the repositories from the internet and drop you into an app with menus for adding removing, searching, updating and generally messing about with the installed software. And that's fine, but skype probably isn't in a repo that you currently have configured. (Unless, you have already played with the repos - its not in the default set, but doing a 'search' now wouldn't hurt, just to test that conjecture.)

From here you can find a repo with almost any software that would be available. Use 'copy and paste' (copy now) the repo name (eg, http://download.opensuse.org/reposit.../openSUSE_11.3, but ensuring that you get the right one for for your version; check that there isn't a separate one for, eg, 64 bit and the version of OPENSuse is correct).

Go into configuration > repositories (menu selection along the top) of the Install and Remove software tool. 'Add repository as URL', pasting the repository info into the dialogue box that pops up. Accept.

You should now be back in the main 'Install and remove software' screen. At this point, if you search for 'skype' you should find what you want and clicking on that will install it 'automagically' for you, assuming a network connection.

Obviously, the procedure for adding things which are in repos that are already configured is rather easier (you don't have to find the repo name and add it), but skype isn't in the default set.

If you do find software that isn't available from a link on the 'build service' site mentioned earlier, you can make a repository from a directory (folder) on your hard drive and just drop the files there. That will allow you to use 'Install and Remove' (or zypper) to manage software that you want tom install (or remove).

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Old 01-24-2011, 04:17 AM   #10
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I'm sorry, but that isn't by any means the easy way, generally, and so is unhelpful for anyone new to Suse to suggest that they start there.
Thanks for the info Salasi. One more reason that I'm happy to be using Debian. I think I did warn the OP that I was not an RPM user. I just didn't realise things were so bad. I promise that I'll never give any advice relating to RPM again.
ciao,
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:24 AM   #11
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Edit: I checked my Debian installation and it does have rpm installed (why? I don't know). Anyway as root you can try
You're obviously good at what you do, if you could do it without thinking.
I have debian Squeeze and I haven't gotten to the point that I could get rpm sources going.
 
Old 01-25-2011, 04:25 AM   #12
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One more reason that I'm happy to be using Debian. I think I did warn the OP that I was not an RPM user. I just didn't realise things were so bad. I promise that I'll never give any advice relating to RPM again.
...so bad??? All you did was the equivalent of advising to install stuff using .deb, without using apt, apt-get, synaptic, etc, etc, leaving the OP to sort out any remaining problems. If you knew there would be no remaining problems, or you knew that the OP was an expert, there might have been a case for that. That doesn't seem to apply, in this case, as far as I can tell.

Anyway, it looks as if the OP has had advice elsewhere that has lead him to use Zypper (command line). I'd still prefer to tell a non-expert to use the graphical front end of Yast, because that seems to have a shallower learning curve for an exile from other Operating Systems, but if Zypper has worked (which may still be unclear), that's good too.
 
Old 01-25-2011, 04:32 AM   #13
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Which part of "I promise that I'll never give any advice relating to RPM again." do you not understand? No need to get in a huff.
jdk
 
Old 01-25-2011, 04:47 AM   #14
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Which part of "I promise that I'll never give any advice relating to RPM again." do you not understand? No need to get in a huff.
jdk
Err, I am not sure which part of my reply you thought was a huff...nothing was intended to be read in that way, but I was trying to encourage you to carry on replying, perhaps being careful with what you say about rpm. Anyway, as I say, the OP seems to have posted his query to another site and has gone with the advice that he got there.
 
Old 01-25-2011, 05:03 AM   #15
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No problem, Salasi. We're all just trying to do our best here. Sorry for any misunderstanings on my part. Just one side note: I use dpkg to directly install debs because I can't be arsed to set up alt-pinning for exerpimental. It's simpler just to download the deb. dpkg does do dependency checks. I get my iceweasel packages from Debian "experimental" since I want the latest version and I want 64bit versions. dpkg nagged me about installing a later version of xulrunner and libmozjs3d before it would install the debian experimental iceweasel.

Anyway once again, all is well.
ciao,
jdk

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