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Old 04-12-2014, 02:54 PM   #16
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So do you think if I clicked on the tarball it would open through Archive Manager.
Right-click, Open With

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To sgosnell's point, if Seamonkey isn't supported by Ubuntu would there be problems with installing it? Lacking support, that probably means there would be no updates, correct?
Linux is "open source" meaning you have total freedom to install any software you like. When we say a software is "not supported by Ubuntu" what that means is that the Ubuntu developers (a company called Canonical) have not tested this software to run well with Ubuntu, and they will not provide you with any updates through the Ubuntu software repositories. Of course you have total freedom to update Seamonkey yourself by repeating the process you used to install it each time a new version comes out. Maybe Seamonkey is even self-updating like Firefox, I just don't know, having never tried it.

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Seamonkey is supposed to be very good...are there other browsers that are compatible with Ubuntu that are worthwhile?
I personally use Firefox and Google Chrome. I think most web browsers these days are actually quite good (with the arguable exception of Internet Explorer).
 
Old 04-12-2014, 04:12 PM   #17
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Seamonkey is the fork from the ORIGINAL Mozilla suite

web browser
email client
irc/ newsgroup

a all in one solution

on 64 bit OS's i use the 64 bit version of Seamonkey
( you have to get it from the ftp page )
2.26 b1
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.....26b1/contrib/
but this requires the 64 bit plugins -- not the 32 bit ones using the 32 bit wrapper )

or
the 32 bit EN language version
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....ux-i686/en-US/

you have to manually update it
click on
Help / " check for updates"
 
Old 04-12-2014, 04:31 PM   #18
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Seamonkey is an all-in-one package, much more than a browser. The default browser for Unbuntu is Firefox. It's pretty much up to date, as is Chromium. I haven't found it especially buggy, no more than Firefox. Seamonkey does email, news, contacts, as well as web browsing, and if anything is dated, it's Seamonkey. It's based on the original Netscape, which was the forerunner of Firefox, so it's essentially older than Firefox V1. There are reasons almost nobody uses it. But it does have its rabid adherents. I'm not one of them, if you hadn't noticed.
 
Old 04-12-2014, 04:44 PM   #19
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it is not dated and not older that ff1
see the release notes
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/rel...seamonkey2.26/
 
Old 04-12-2014, 05:25 PM   #20
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it is not dated...
A big +1 and this from their home page,

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The SeaMonkey® Project

The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the SeaMonkey all-in-one internet application suite (see below). Such a software suite was previously made popular by Netscape and Mozilla, and the SeaMonkey project continues to develop and deliver high-quality updates to this concept. Containing an Internet browser, email & newsgroup client with an included web feed reader, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools, SeaMonkey is sure to appeal to advanced users, web developers and corporate users.

Under the hood, SeaMonkey uses much of the same Mozilla source code which powers such successful siblings as Firefox and Thunderbird. Legal backing is provided by the Mozilla Foundation.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

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Old 04-12-2014, 05:42 PM   #21
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but Firefox dose take up LESS space on the drive
and you can use Thunderbird
and your own im and irc
and address book

or
use the all in one Seamonkey

some of us grew up on Netscape navigator and IE1 & 2
then IE5 and Mozilla 0.6 nightly testing builds
then the big day in 2002
Mozilla 1.0

for some it is Firefox that is "different" and "odd"
after all firefox was the "new kid on the block" not to long ago
 
Old 04-12-2014, 06:03 PM   #22
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All true, but with both the mail client and browser open, SeaMonkey uses less RAM than Firefox and Thunderbird (both open).


I miss Netscape Navigator, but SeaMonkey fills the void very nicely.
 
Old 04-12-2014, 08:03 PM   #23
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Hmmm...I didn't mean to start a religious war over the merits and demerits of browsers! I'm still trying to determine if there is a best way to install Seamonkey and, if so, how to do it? As I said, the Archive Manager is there and I think I got as far as decompressing the tarball to file. From there, however, I could not get it to open. It would seem that if the Manager was going to open Seamonkey it would "just work." Since it isn't, what needs to be done after the tarball is converted to a file?
 
Old 04-12-2014, 08:37 PM   #24
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grab the 32 bit or 64 bit version of 2.26 b1 ( or 2.25 )
extract the folder ( there really is NO "installing" this )
some leave it in there $HOME folder
others copy it to
/opt/seamonkey
/usr/local/seamonkey
-- me i have it on a different disk that is shared ---
/DATA/SUSE12/seamonkey

WHEREVER you put it it MUST be writable to by your normal user !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


your OS ?? should ?? auto find the "browser-plugins" folder in
/usr/lib OR /usr/lib64

if not then copy that folder into the seamonkey folder and rename it to "plugins"


the easiest way to find if it is finding the default plugins ( the exact same ones for firefox )
is to type into the address bar
Code:
about:plugins
to run the browser
double click on the "seamonkey" program to run
if that fails
open a terminal in that folder and type in
Code:
 seamonkey
read the error , if one

if there is try running seamonkey by running the launcher script "run-mozilla.sh"
that script should set the needed environment variables if they are not auto detected


for extracting the tar.gz archive
this is almost the exact SAME as you do for a .zip on windows
r-click on the archive
and select from the r-click menu
"extract file" or something along those lines
or
open with archive manager (or something like that)


you can also read the install instructions
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc...-and-uninstall

but they are a bit confusing

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Old 04-12-2014, 11:57 PM   #25
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In trying to install seamonkey this is what I received:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package seamonkey is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'seamonkey' has no installation candidate

Does this mean anything to anyone? It beats me!
 
Old 04-13-2014, 12:22 AM   #26
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In trying to install seamonkey this is what I received:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package seamonkey is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'seamonkey' has no installation candidate

Does this mean anything to anyone? It beats me!

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubun...mozilla-build/

???
 
Old 04-13-2014, 09:45 AM   #27
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Yuhan, of course it means anything to anyone: it means you need to carefully follow the instructions step-by-step, beginning-to-end.
 
Old 04-13-2014, 02:23 PM   #28
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Yes, well I thought I was trying to do that. One of the claims of Linux (and I've usually found it to be true) is that when you install new software "it just works." It appears with Seamonkey that isn't the case, and that plug-ins, etc., are needed to make it work. I'm just having a hard time figuring out how to do that. I'm grateful for the suggestions made here and I've tried all of them. Maybe I'm not executing something correctly--that's certainly possible--but I think I've followed the directions given closely. It appears that there are things needed outside the basic Seamonkey package required to get it running on Linux. That's where I'm not exactly clear. Now is that last link to sourceforge an installer different from the one that is included with the Ubuntu package? I appreciate this help and promise to close this link if I can't get this running soon! Thanks again.
 
Old 04-13-2014, 02:45 PM   #29
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Yes, well I thought I was trying to do that. One of the claims of Linux (and I've usually found it to be true) is that when you install new software "it just works." It appears with Seamonkey that isn't the case, and that plug-ins, etc., are needed to make it work...
Well, no. The package should work. With all due respect, you must be doing something wrong.
As to plug-ins, they are only needed IF YOU need them. The plug-ins I like may not be of any use to you, etc. You are talking about plugins to "extend" the use of the browser/mail client, e.g., Lightning?
 
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" It appears with Seamonkey that isn't the case,
not quite true
the tarbal is a self contained program

extract it into your home folder
double click ( or single click) on the NEW folder "seamonkey"

your OS "should" auto find everything
then double click the program "seamonkey" in the seamonkey folder

for 99% of the cases that is ALL that is needed

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