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Novatian 06-07-2017 09:00 AM

Install latest stable WINE?
 
Hi on my desktop I am installing WINE the latest stable release. But I did not get to fully install, here is my input into my terminal:
bren@bren-ThinkCentre-M92p ~ $ su
Password:
bren-ThinkCentre-M92p bren # sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
bren-ThinkCentre-M92p bren # wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/Release.key
--2017-06-07 23:49:53-- https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/Release.key
Resolving dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)... 151.101.80.69
Connecting to dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)|151.101.80.69|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3122 (3.0K) [application/pgp-keys]
Saving to: 'Release.key’

Release.key 100%[===================>] 3.05K --.-KB/s in 0s

2017-06-07 23:49:54 (44.5 MB/s) - 'Release.key’ saved [3122/3122]

bren-ThinkCentre-M92p bren # sudo apt-key add Release.key
OK
bren-ThinkCentre-M92p bren # sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
> sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable


My computer is 64 bit, my Mint 18.1 install is new.

wpeckham 06-07-2017 09:10 AM

And where is the output that tells you that the install is not complete?
We will need that to make a determination (or guess) as to why it might be incomplete or unsuccessful.

Novatian 06-07-2017 09:33 AM

It is incomplete, WINE is still not in my list of programs, there was no download or depackage...

Habitual 06-07-2017 11:24 AM

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine

wpeckham 06-07-2017 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novatian (Post 5720117)
It is incomplete, WINE is still not in my list of programs, there was no download or depackage...

So you are saying that you ran the commands, there was no output?

Habitual 06-07-2017 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novatian (Post 5720106)
Code:

sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
> sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable


You ran sudo apt-add-repository twice?

in a terminal, please issue
Code:

sudo dpkg -l |grep wine | grep ii
show anything about the package?

if you aren't sure, use
Code:

sudo dpkg -l |grep wine | grep ii | nc termbin.com 9999
and toss us the short link here.

Additionally,
Code:

inxi -Fsxr -c0 | nc termbin.com 9999
may help down the road.
Please post that short link here also.

Thanks.

Novatian 06-09-2017 10:20 AM

OK, I got it going, wine stable, I had to open another terminal and su again and go from where I made an error and include the whole command with "xenial"...

It downloaded but I cannot find WINE in my menu even so.

Can anyone recommend wine tricks? and what is the terminal command or link to the wiki, unless I find it myself.

brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan # sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ xenial main'
brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan # sudo apt-get update
Ign:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah InRelease
Hit:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Hit:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease [102 kB]
Hit:5 http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release
Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]
Get:8 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial InRelease [4,686 B]
Ign:8 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Get:9 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages [9,060 B]
Get:10 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial/main i386 Packages [8,992 B]
Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease [102 kB]
Fetched 329 kB in 3s (85.6 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 818A435C5FCBF54A
W: The repository 'https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed.
N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan # sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-stable
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
libasn1-8-heimdal:i386 libcapi20-3 libdb5.3:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa:i386 libglapi-mesa libgles1-mesa libgles2-mesa
libgsm1:i386 libgssapi3-heimdal:i386 libhcrypto4-heimdal:i386
libheimbase1-heimdal:i386 libheimntlm0-heimdal:i386 libhx509-5-heimdal:i386
libkrb5-26-heimdal:i386 libldap-2.4-2:i386 libodbc1 libosmesa6
libosmesa6:i386 libpcap0.8:i386 libroken18-heimdal:i386 libsasl2-2:i386
libsasl2-modules-db:i386 libwind0-heimdal:i386 wine-stable wine-stable-amd64
wine-stable-i386:i386
Suggested packages:
isdnutils-doc libmyodbc odbc-postgresql tdsodbc unixodbc-bin
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libasn1-8-heimdal:i386 libcapi20-3 libdb5.3:i386 libgsm1:i386
libgssapi3-heimdal:i386 libhcrypto4-heimdal:i386 libheimbase1-heimdal:i386
libheimntlm0-heimdal:i386 libhx509-5-heimdal:i386 libkrb5-26-heimdal:i386
libldap-2.4-2:i386 libodbc1 libosmesa6 libosmesa6:i386 libpcap0.8:i386
libroken18-heimdal:i386 libsasl2-2:i386 libsasl2-modules-db:i386
libwind0-heimdal:i386 wine-stable wine-stable-amd64 wine-stable-i386:i386
winehq-stable
The following packages will be upgraded:
libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa:i386 libglapi-mesa
libgles1-mesa libgles2-mesa
6 to upgrade, 23 to newly install, 0 to remove and 34 not to upgrade.
Need to get 52.4 MB of archives.
After this operation, 387 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
wine-stable-amd64 wine-stable-i386:i386 wine-stable winehq-stable
Install these packages without verification? [y/N] y
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Get:22 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 libglapi-mesa amd64 12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 [22.9 kB]
Get:23 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386 libglapi-mesa i386 12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 [22.6 kB]
Get:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 libodbc1 amd64 2.3.1-4.1 [180 kB]
Get:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386 libosmesa6 i386 12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 [1,229 kB]
Get:26 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial/main i386 wine-stable-i386 i386 2.0.1~xenial [22.6 MB]
Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 libosmesa6 amd64 12.0.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 [1,162 kB]
Get:28 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 wine-stable amd64 2.0.1~xenial [1,086 kB]
Get:29 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 winehq-stable amd64 2.0.1~xenial [3,160 B]
Fetched 52.4 MB in 22s (2,333 kB/s)
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I want to configure WINE.
When I did a search in menu, I found WINE svg and png files, notepad... and winefish. But even after a restart, I can't find WINE in my menu.

Novatian 06-09-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habitual (Post 5720199)
You ran sudo apt-add-repository twice?

in a terminal, please issue
Code:

sudo dpkg -l |grep wine | grep ii
show anything about the package?

if you aren't sure, use
Code:

sudo dpkg -l |grep wine | grep ii | nc termbin.com 9999
and toss us the short link here.

Additionally,
Code:

inxi -Fsxr -c0 | nc termbin.com 9999
may help down the road.
Please post that short link here also.

Thanks.

brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan # sudo dpkg -l |grep wine | grep ii
ii wine-stable 2.0.1~xenial amd64 WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii wine-stable-amd64 2.0.1~xenial amd64 WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii wine-stable-i386:i386 2.0.1~xenial i386 WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
ii winehq-stable 2.0.1~xenial amd64 WINE Is Not An Emulator - runs MS Windows programs
brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan #
brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan # sudo dpkg -l |grep wine | grep ii | nc termbin.com 9999
http://termbin.com/a0gy
brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan # inxi -Fsxr -c0 | nc termbin.com 9999
http://termbin.com/6j0x
brendan-ThinkCentre-M92p brendan #

Novatian 06-09-2017 11:47 AM

Could one of these commands be worth trying?
LANG=C;sudo apt-get --fix-missing install

LANG=C;sudo apt-get --purge autoremove

Novatian 06-09-2017 11:48 PM

Updater now has a fault:

The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.


GPG error: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 818A435C5FCBF54AThe repository 'https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed.Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dis...9cc0bd062acdcb Hash Sum mismatchFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dis...4d99c3d625df6b Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Novatian 06-12-2017 07:18 AM

Updater still however works.

I went through the instructions from WINEHQ after refreshing a terminal and using my password. It then installed but did not appear in my menu. But it still works through a terminal and runs 2 windows programs so far.

In terminal I need to use:
wine program.exe
wine setup.msi
wine --version
winecfg

There then was a need to install mono and gecko.

WINE is an option on right click of the download to open an .exe file. And it runs.

remma12 06-12-2017 09:04 AM

Wine is CLI so you will not see it appear in your menu


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