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Old 03-28-2003, 10:50 PM   #16
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WTH I will add my comments as well.
I can to a similar understanding about M$ about a month ago and went out and bought RH 8 for 20 bucks. I bought it becuase I am a complete n00b, the very definition of n00b if you will.
So I installed it and boom it worked. But I did not use it much. I then started poking around orielly and read a great article on "getting to know the terminal". Well this just sparked me and i was off. Poking, tweaking learning. It has been a great month.
As soon as i figure out how to add more multimedia functions (I love my Ifilm and atomfilms.com) I will prolly dump M$ from my partition.

I am now getting into servers so I will be adding Mandrake tonight. RH does not pre-install SQL with apache and PHP so I will try out Mandrake and learn SQL from a pre-installed basis.

Best of luck!
Jason
 
Old 03-29-2003, 12:02 AM   #17
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I then started poking around orielly and read a great article on "getting to know the terminal". Well this just sparked me and i was off. Poking, tweaking learning. It has been a great month.
Hey, that's EXACTLY what happened to me. It made me remember the "good old days" when the puter did what I told it to do, not what some Winblow$ programmer decided I would be allowed to access.

It has been GREAT, I agree!

Steve
 
Old 03-29-2003, 05:18 PM   #18
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You might consider Caldera open linux workstation, I have had good sucess with 3.1.1 workstation.
 
Old 03-29-2003, 05:28 PM   #19
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RH does not pre-install SQL with apache and PHP so I will try out Mandrake and learn SQL from a pre-installed basis.
Not sure what you mean by 'pre-install' SQL with apache and PHP. I have a website using MySQL/PHP and it works great. There was little or no setup involved with it.

My suggestion for the complete noob is to get one of those 'idiots' or 'dummies' guides to Linux. If your ego allows it, admit that you are a complete noob and go down the path of learning from a book. You'll be happy you did.

I've convinced a few noobs in my time to install Linux and after they install it they don't see what all the fuss is about. Ahh but they do not know the power that lays within. The books will unleash it.
 
Old 03-29-2003, 05:48 PM   #20
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Okay, based on all of your helpful replies, I downloaded the 3 Mandrake ISO's, ran the MD5 checksums ( all ok ). However, when attempting to install it, my pewter freezes up with 16 minutes to go. I have tried to do this six times and the frustration is off the meter, so I am now downloading Slackware and Debian. We'll see what happens with those.
Tell us what options you picked on the install menu. It sounds as if one of two things was happening to you. Either your choice of packages resulted in needing more space than the default partitioning scheme provided, for storing the binary files, or your video system (card and monitor together) might not be getting sensed correctly. Either of these can cause a lockup, and since it's repeated six times there's definitely something wrong.

You might try selecting the "expert" install option even though you don't consider yourself an expert, and then initially installing only the absolute minimum of material. Once you have the system up and running you can easily add more utilities at any time, unlike Windows where some things can be done only at install time. Also, do NOT select booting into a graphic interface. If you use the command-line interface at boot time, then any problems with the video system should not lock things up until you try to launch the graphics server. Again, you can change this at any time later, but initially keeping things as simple as possible is the best way to get up and running so you can learn how to make them a bit more familiar!

I've used Mandrake 8.1 for a year and a half now and as my profile at the left shows, had problems with 9.0 (probably due to my own configuration preferences). If all else fails you might try locating a set of 8.1 disks and installing those!
 
Old 03-29-2003, 09:39 PM   #21
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Not sure what you mean by 'pre-install' SQL with apache and PHP. I have a website using MySQL/PHP and it works great. There was little or no setup involved with it.
Your right it is. Upon first installation you must select "server" mode. I think I selected Workstation. After "re-installing" the server portion I got PHP and MYSQL working fine.

As for the books. I agree, I am currently living on Oreilly right as it has a great balance on Linux, PHP and MYSQL info in one spot.
 
Old 03-30-2003, 05:09 PM   #22
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UPDATE!

Ok... Its Sunday morning and I got the program to install... sort of... I got through the 3 ds but when I boot, this is what I get....

Loading Linux.......................................
ERROR 0X10
>Linux

Ok People, what am I doing wrong... Im about ready to use these disks for skeet practice!?!

Tews
 
  


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