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Old 09-18-2017, 08:17 AM   #1
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Question Ibus input method on RHEL not producing correct non-English characters


Hello,

I have a recently installed (close to vanilla/stock) RHEL 7.4 system, and I used its built in GNOME `Settings` -> `Region & Language` -> `Input Sources` GUI to add the Chinese Intelligent Bopomofo (pinyin) input method.

I was able to switch to said input method (which appears to be based on Ibus), but typing with it outputs the literal English character letters rather than the Chinese characters (in this case, the phonetic symbols) that are supposed to be mapped to those keys. It's also strange because the input method actually shows me candidate characters to choose from, so it does recognise what I'm typing, but when I select a character it outputs the literal series of English characters associated with my keystrokes.....

How do I troubleshoot this? Thank you.
 
Old 09-18-2017, 12:01 PM   #2
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Firstly, did you install the Chinese support package?
yum groupinstall "Chinese Support"

Then you need to go to the menu for System - Preferences - Input (or something like that)
Select "ibus" and click on "Input method preferences" to give more details.

This advice may need some updating: I know that "yum" has been replaced by something else, and I can't remember what!
 
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:13 PM   #3
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Firstly, did you install the Chinese support package?
yum groupinstall "Chinese Support"

Then you need to go to the menu for System - Preferences - Input (or something like that)
Select "ibus" and click on "Input method preferences" to give more details.

This advice may need some updating: I know that "yum" has been replaced by something else, and I can't remember what!
Has "yum" been replaced by something???? I'm still using it all the time in this installation of RHEL 7.4...

Running `yum groupinstall "Chinese Support"` did not give any results, how do I look for that package group? Maybe it's under another name? BTW, I used `yum search Chinese` and looked at all the results. Looks like I've installed all the relevant packages anyway...

I've uploaded a GIF demonstrating this strange behaviour, please check it out: https://imgur.com/a/kzL1h

What else can I try, thanks!!
 
Old 09-19-2017, 12:26 PM   #4
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It may be that SL has followed Fedora and you now need
yum groupinstall traditional-chinese-support

The imgur site doesn't work on my computer, so I couldn't see your GIF.
 
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:23 AM   #5
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It may be that SL has followed Fedora and you now need
yum groupinstall traditional-chinese-support
I ran `yum groups list` to see the full list of installable groups:

Code:
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   MATE Desktop
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
   Server with GUI
Installed Groups:
   Emacs
   Input Methods
   Zhong Yi Song Fonts
Available Groups:
   Additional Development
   Backup Client
   Backup Server
   Base
   CIFS file server
   Compatibility libraries
   Console internet tools
   Debugging Tools
   Desktop
   Desktop Debugging and Performance Tools
   Desktop Platform
   Desktop Platform Development
   Development tools
   Dial-up Networking Support
   Directory Client
   Directory Server
   E-mail server
   Eclipse
   Educational Software
   Electronic Lab
   FCoE Storage Client
   FTP server
   Fedora Packager
   Fonts
   General Purpose Desktop
   Graphical Administration Tools
   Graphics Creation Tools
   Hardware monitoring utilities
   Haskell
   Infiniband Support
   Internet Applications
   Internet Browser
   Java Base
   Java Browser
   Java Database
   Java Platform
   KDE Desktop
   Large Systems Performance
   Legacy UNIX compatibility
   Legacy X Window System compatibility
   Mainframe Access
   Messaging Client Support
   Messaging Server Support
   Milkymist
   Misc
   MySQL Database client
   MySQL Database server
   NFS file server
   Network Infrastructure Server
   Network Storage Server
   Network file system client
   Networking Tools
   Office Suite and Productivity
   PHP Support
   Performance Tools
   Perl Support
   PostgreSQL Database client
   PostgreSQL Database server
   Print Server
   Printing client
   RT
   Remote Desktop Clients
   SNMP Support
   Scientific support
   Security Tools
   Server Platform
   Server Platform Development
   Smart card support
   Storage Availability Tools
   System Management
   System administration tools
   TeX support
   Technical Writing
   TurboGears application framework
   Virtualisation
   Virtualisation Client
   Virtualisation Platform
   Virtualisation Tools
   Web Server
   Web Servlet Engine
   Web-Based Enterprise Management
   X Window System
   Xfce
   iSCSI Storage Client
Done
As you can see, I've tried installing the "Input Methods" and "Zhong Yi Song Fonts" groups which are the only two that look relevant to me... Is there anything else I can try?

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The imgur site doesn't work on my computer, so I couldn't see your GIF.
I've re-uploaded the GIF to the libre Lut.im service with a direct link here:

https://lut.im/t7iJHvJDuo/D0zGITYOnCIasWMh.gif

Hopefully you can see it this time? Thanks for your help!
 
Old 09-20-2017, 11:34 AM   #6
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The old support package was never listed by "yum grouplist", so perhaps the new one isn't! Have you actually tried "yum groupinstall traditional-chinese-support"?

I still can't see the gif: none of those fancy sites ever work for me, although I can see images posted at this one.
 
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Old 09-20-2017, 06:26 PM   #7
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The old support package was never listed by "yum grouplist", so perhaps the new one isn't! Have you actually tried "yum groupinstall traditional-chinese-support"?
Thanks for sticking with me and for your patience. Yes I did try "yum groupinstall traditional-chinese-support", and yum said it was not found... Do you think it might be a problem with GNOME 3 vs Ibus instead?

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I still can't see the gif: none of those fancy sites ever work for me, although I can see images posted at this one.
You should be able to directly wget or curl the URL to download the GIF onto your computer, it is a direct link to the file. If that doesn't work, I supposed I can try to record it again but to a WebM video instead!
 
Old 09-21-2017, 11:51 AM   #8
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I'm out of ideas here, I'm sorry to say. This might be a Scientific Linux problem, although at the CentOS forum, some people say they have problems with ibus and are using fcitx
https://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Fcitx
 
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:21 PM   #9
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I'm out of ideas here, I'm sorry to say. This might be a Scientific Linux problem, although at the CentOS forum, some people say they have problems with ibus and are using fcitx
https://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Fcitx
Oh well, thanks anyway for your patience! Hopefully someone else has suggestions?
 
  


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