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Old 04-20-2009, 03:22 PM   #1
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How to make RPMs with dependencies (meta-packages?)


Hi all,

I found a few articles that describe the process of creating RPMs -- the expected directory layout, the spec file, etc. But I haven't found out how to tell an RPM what dependencies it needs. I'm trying to make a meta-package that simply installs a bunch of other packages, which makes life easier when deploying new systems.

Or is this a feature of yum, and not RPM?

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Old 04-20-2009, 03:36 PM   #2
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You could add requires in the specfile.
IE:

Requires: PACKAGE1, PACKAGE2
 
Old 04-21-2009, 10:44 AM   #3
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Ah, thanks. Once I knew what to search for, I found this: http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-inside-tags.html
 
Old 04-22-2009, 01:58 PM   #4
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The RPM built fine with `rpmbuild -ba SPECS/metatest.spec`, but when I go to install it, nothing happens. Since there is no actual code or binary being packaged, I don't know if I'm doing it correctly.

Here is my metatest.spec file:

Code:
%define _topdir			/home/zed/meta_package
%define _tmppath		%{_topdir}/tmp
%define _prefix			/usr/local
%define _defaultdocdir		%{_prefix}/share/doc
%define _mandir			%{_prefix}/share/man

%define name			Metatest
%define summary			Meta-package test
%define version			0.1
%define release			1
%define license			GPL
%define group			Documentation
%define vendor			Zed, inc.
%define packager		zed
%define	buildroot		%{_tmppath}/%{name}-root

Name:      %{name}
Version:   %{version}
Release:   %{release}
Packager:  %{packager}
Vendor:    %{vendor}
License:   %{license}
Summary:   %{summary}
Group:     %{group}
#Source:    %{source}
URL:       %{url}
Prefix:    %{_prefix}
Buildroot: %{buildroot}
Requires:  screen irssi

%description
Meta-package test
I have screen and irssi there as examples just to see if it will pull them in.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 04:26 PM   #5
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Your post said you wanted to require a package to be installed.

The other part where you said you wanted it to 'pull' it in would require a script that ran within the RPM itself. I'd advise against it as that's what require is for, to let people know that there is something else to install. Automaticly installing packages within other packages could break things or not work at all. It could also cause suspect that your installing something like a trojan horse.

The require means if the package is not installed that the current rpm will fail and require you to install the required package(s) before you can install it.
 
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The other part where you said you wanted it to 'pull' it in would require a script that ran within the RPM itself.
It does not. All that was missing from the .spec file was an empty %files section to rpmbuild OK. Installing the package using yum I can confirm it properly requires screen and irssi.


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I'd advise against it as that's what require is for, to let people know that there is something else to install. Automaticly installing packages within other packages could break things or not work at all.
Take a look at Xorg and OOo packages. The'res meta packages there that are placeholders just to make sure other packages are pulled in. Nothing rocketscience there.


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It could also cause suspect that your installing something like a trojan horse.
Depending on who's the vedor, how the packages are signed (GPG) and how they're distributed slash provided that may or may not arouse suspicion.
 
Old 04-23-2009, 09:26 AM   #7
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I think what he meant by pull it in is download or install other rpms automatically based on content within the specfile.
 
Old 04-23-2009, 09:55 AM   #8
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Let me be more clear about what I meant

When doing `yum localinstall` or `rpm -i` I wanted it to list those two apps as dependencies. Thanks to unSpawn for pointing out the empty %files section.

I failed to mention that I'm building my own yum repo, and I want to be able to type `yum install meta-test` (or whatever it's named) and have it find and download its dependencies, like most apps usually do. As I mentioned earlier, I wasn't sure if this dependency seeking and downloading was handled by RPM or by yum. Edit: I'm using Spacewalk, which doesn't support yum groups.

Right now it's failing to install due to dependency errors, which is definitely a step in the right direction:

Code:
Metatest-0.1-1.i386 from /home/Zed/meta_package/RPMS/i386/Metatest-0.1-1.i386.rpm has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: irssi is needed by package Metatest-0.1-1.i386 (/home/Zed/meta_package/RPMS/i386/Metatest-0.1-1.i386.rpm)
Error: Missing Dependency: irssi is needed by package Metatest-0.1-1.i386 (/home/Zed/meta_package/RPMS/i386/Metatest-0.1-1.i386.rpm)

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Old 04-23-2009, 11:14 AM   #9
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Looks like everything is working the way I wanted. Thanks, everyone!
 
Old 04-23-2009, 05:43 PM   #10
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I think what he meant by pull it in is download or install other rpms automatically based on content within the specfile.
Like I said before that's not rocketscience nor unusual. Examples were given already so you can see for yourself and not have to take my word for it.


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Let me be more clear about what I meant (..) I failed to mention that
For some reason people often find it necessary to post just half the information they posess. I don't know what that is all about unless people think everyone's ESP-fu here is major ;-p Sure in most occasions it might be overkill but it never hurts to put as much nfo in the OP as possible. Anyway. Good to see you made things work.
 
  


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