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Old 02-25-2017, 04:30 PM   #31
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I don't really understand whay you want to see in that file manager. Please be more clear.
Hi...

Simply the contents of that folder.

To be honest, from your posts, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be more beneficial for you to get "hands on" help from a Linux user's group (LUG) or to take your system to a computer repair shop or technician that is highly proficient in Linux.

Regards...
 
Old 02-25-2017, 05:40 PM   #32
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I was at the public library so wireless. When you use the "live" CD, the icons (2 little screens) option for the wireless networks doesn't even show. I am now installing Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (again, the third times). This time, I had the option to connect to the Internet but I didn't. Before starting the install, I did start it to use it "live" to check if Gimp was there in the Lubuntu Software center and...it is. Stay tuned.
Just as bad, the gimp package is nowhere to be find. When the "live CD" in the Lubuntu Software center for "Graphics" there's tons of choices...and Gimp is there. When you use the real operating system, only
seven of them shows and...Gimp is not among them.
WOW! This time, "sudo apt-get update" is working so...there's hope the Gimp package will finally shows. YES! it works!. GIMP 2.8 is BACK!

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Old 02-25-2017, 06:27 PM   #33
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Why do you keep re-installing Lubuntu? It is not necessary to re-install Lubuntu to downgrade from Gimp 2.8 to Gimp 2.6.

www.gimp.org has the source code for every version of gimp ever released. You can pick the version you like, compile it, test it, and see if it solves the problem. This is what "open source software" is all about: giving you, the user, total control and freedom over the software that gets installed on your computer.
 
Old 02-25-2017, 06:49 PM   #34
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Why do you keep re-installing Lubuntu? It is not necessary to re-install Lubuntu to downgrade from Gimp 2.8 to Gimp 2.6.

www.gimp.org has the source code for every version of gimp ever released. You can pick the version you like, compile it, test it, and see if it solves the problem. This is what "open source software" is all about: giving you, the user, total control and freedom over the software that gets installed on your computer.
I did uninstall Lubuntu a few times because it seems there was something that went wrong with it. The fist time I had remove Gimp and couldn't get it back so by re-installing, I was to get it back automatically,right? But no, it was still gone and I thought it could have been cause by a bad DVD burn. When I did that burn, it did start but was EXTREMELY slow at the beginning so I thought maybe something went wrong with it.
So lets say I want to install Gimp 2.4 ... how do you do that? What mean "compile it" ? Is there somebody who can explain in detail,clearly,simply how do you chose ANY version of Gimp and how to install it in Lubuntu?

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Old 02-25-2017, 07:08 PM   #35
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So lets say I want to install Gimp 2.4 ... how do you do that? What mean "compile it" ? Is there somebody who can explain in detail,clearly,simply how do you chose ANY version of Gimp and how to install it in Lubuntu?
The official instructions straight from gimp.org: https://www.gimp.org/source/
 
Old 02-25-2017, 07:13 PM   #36
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Thanks! It might be so badly explained that a newbie won't understand anything but...I will try. It's exactly what I thought...like Chinese.
As far as the Gimp package not being found...I'm not a 100% sure but it could have been that my wireless Internet connection was cut.

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Old 02-25-2017, 07:20 PM   #37
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An easier/simpler alternative, if compiling GIMP from its source code proves too daunting a task:

DISCLAIMER: For 14.04 "trusty" users, this will install the tested and current gimp 2.8, NOT the obsolete and unsupported gimp 2.6.

Also, please note you will need a working internet connection.

Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install gimp
 
Old 02-25-2017, 07:41 PM   #38
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DISCLAIMER: For 14.04 "trusty" users, this will install the tested and current gimp 2.8, NOT the obsolete and unsupported gimp 2.6.
Hi,,

But that's what the OP wants, version 2.6 or older.

Regards...
 
Old 02-25-2017, 08:34 PM   #39
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Just to be sure I wasn't dreaming at the time, I did go again on this laptop with Linux Lite 1.0.8 . And you know what...that graphic card...yes, that SIS graphic card and that low end/old CPU...yes, that low end/old CPU work just fine with Gimp 2.8 , no tearing, the whole bunch of tools show in the tool box.
The idea that an older version of Gimp could maybe do the trick comes from another naysayer at an other forums telling me that Gimp is a huge thing and that my laptop isn't good enough to run it. I guess the older the Gimp version, the smaller it is. Oh! and that old laptop has been running Gimp starting like 10 years ago with...I think it was version 2 or 2.2 but...this was with Windows XP.
That's good news that Linux Lite runs Gimp just fine.

There is a distribution called Anti-X. It's designed for older pc's. I've spoken to a few members here that are running it and they are well pleased with it. If you'd like you could give it a spin.

http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

IF you want Gimp 2.8 sudo apt-get install gimp as root should install with ease.
HOWEVER; if you want to instal Gimp 2.6 you will have to:
-Download the tar.bz

-cd to the directory that the tar.bz is in.

-Once you are in that directory type ls and hit Enter.
(you will get a list of everything in that directory)

-Untar the tar.bz using the tar xvf command.
Code:
tar xvf name of gimp tar.bz
Once untared open the file and look for a "README" or "INSTALL" file that will tell you how to install it.
The general practice in the cmd-line for installing a tar.bz is:
./configure

make

And as 'root"
make install


http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961...r-tar-bz2-file

How old is your Acer?
 
Old 02-25-2017, 08:41 PM   #40
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Both of the links that ardvark71 posted for you in Post # 3 are good to download gimp-2.6.0.

-::-Don't forget to check the integrity of the file.-::-

If the md5 signature doesn't match don't trust it.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
 
Old 02-25-2017, 09:09 PM   #41
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Thanks! It might be so badly explained that a newbie won't understand anything but...I will try. It's exactly what I thought...like Chinese.
As far as the Gimp package not being found...I'm not a 100% sure but it could have been that my wireless Internet connection was cut.
then WHY!!! are you trying to GO BACKWARDS!!!
it is like trying to get a windows 98 / XP program to BUILD and run on windows 10

while YES it " can" be done it is NOT!!! easy

then to make matters worse you are using a old and UNSUPPORTED operating system from April 2014
-- IT IS February of 2017 NOW

but to do what you want to do is going to be a bit hard but doable ( at least for me !!! - i have been building " The Gimp" source code since 2001

SO !!!! fallow the testing instructions for building THE DEVELOPMENT code
BUT
go backwards !!!
and use OLDER!!!! versions of GTK,libpng, libtif,postscripr , and for 2.6 use the OLD guentinprint code and not "gimp print"
it worked better

and use a "config.site" file for auto tools like the testing development wiki sugestes to do ( but use OLDER versions)


and THIS WILL BE A PAIN IN THE ASS TO DO!!!!

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Hi,,

But that's what the OP wants, version 2.6 or older.

Regards...
True, my recommended method will not install 2.6 or older, but on the other hand, it will not be a "pain in the ass" (in the words of John VV). However, Linux is all about freedom and choice: to take the easy way, the hard way, the middle path, etc.
 
Old 02-25-2017, 09:31 PM   #43
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then to make matters worse you are using a old and UNSUPPORTED operating system from April 2014
-- IT IS February of 2017 NOW
Hi...

It's still supported as of right now but from what I see here, it looks like it will reach it's EOL sometime later this year.

Regards...
 
Old 02-26-2017, 04:16 AM   #44
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I was at the public library so wireless. When you use the "live" CD, the icons (2 little screens) option for the wireless networks doesn't even show. I am now installing Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (again, the third times). This time, I had the option to connect to the Internet but I didn't.
ok, let's leave gimp aside for a while.

1.
a modern and user-friendly linux distro requires an internet connection. so you have to take care of it first.
wired is usually easy and works out of the box.
but some wireless chips require "firmware" to be installed separately in addition to the driver itself. i'm guessing that this is your problem.
this doesn't mean that linux is badly coded, it's a legal issue.
still some distros try to go around it (e.g. by being based in a country that does not have this law) - try linux mint mate, it just might make all the difference.

2.
there's really no sense in trying to install old versions of everything in the hope that your presumably old hardware will work better with it. instead you should choose a current distro that focuses on support for old hardware. that's why antiX, amongst others, was suggested to you.
if you decide to stay with (L)ubuntu, always choose the current LTS.

once you decided for one distro and still have problems with wireless, i suggest you start a new thread.
it is solvable.
 
Old 02-26-2017, 03:35 PM   #45
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O.K., I'm done with this thread. If I could, I would delete it but....seems that can't be done. I could continue to answer/argue that yes, I did try Antix, that no, Lubuntu LTS 14.04 is not an old shit and is supported until April 2019 and this and that...
That laptop is a "spare/back-up". I will put it back in the mothballs today and maybe I will NEVER touch it agian. I have another one running Windows 7 that works just fine.The spare one with Linux/Lubuntu works just fine with Gimp too...except that the last 8 or 9 tool's icons dont show but... they are there and when you hover over them, their name appears and you know exactly what you got. I can live with that...if I EVER have to use it again.
I would have known it was such a pain in the ass to install a new program of my choice in Linux, I would never have ask the question. In Windows, it's such a breeze to do just that. Thanks to all that did participate.

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