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Old 02-24-2017, 11:18 PM   #16
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Hi Lesl2, sadly I don't think downgrading from Gimp 2.8 to Gimp 2.6 will solve the underlying problem with your unsupported graphics card, as you described in your other discussion: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-a-4175600377/

I agree with hydrurga's suggestion to swap to a Linux-friendly graphics card, if at all possible.
OP said in the other thread that you linked:
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This is an old Acer 3003 WLMI. I don't want to put a penny in it
I don't see another way around a solution if a strict budget is still implied.
 
Old 02-24-2017, 11:48 PM   #17
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To get rid of the fact the tool box in Gimp 2.8 is not opening completely. The last 4-6 icons aren't showing...they are covered by a zebra like pattern.
This sort of behavior is most likely linked to a low end/old GPU.

I know you said in your other thread that you do not want to put another penny in your old pc....however; should you decide to go ahead and install a newer GPU check that your mobo has a pci-e slot for it.

If your not sure what mobo you have run this cmd as root:

Code:
cat /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/board_vendor /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/board_name /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/board_version
 
Old 02-25-2017, 08:59 AM   #18
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Lesl2, I apologize if my earlier tone was not constructive. I hope the link I posted to Gimp 2.6 was helpful at least? I wanted to show you how "open source software" works, what Linux is all about: the user has total freedom to install any version of the software, from a trusted site.

Here are a couple of really good resources, for supplemental reading about Linux on old computers. What is possible on old hardware? What is impossible? What are some fun and realistic hobby/project ideas for old computers? You'll find answers to these questions and more:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...rs-4175449680/
https://kmandla.wordpress.com/

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Old 02-25-2017, 12:32 PM   #19
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https://download.gimp.org/mirror/pub/gimp/v2.6/
What's the point of writing that? I know you can find legitimate version of many old Gimp but...you can't f...... install them in Lubuntu. The only one that install is 2.8 .
those are source packages, so you would need to compile them.
definitely more complicated than the method from the askubuntu question from my previous post.

all in all, i think you got all the answers you can get, now it's up to you & your computer to make something out of it.

i still don't see the how reverting to an old gimp version will solve your problems.

SiS graphics always had poor linux support, now and then.
 
Old 02-25-2017, 12:48 PM   #20
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That's odd, could you open a file manager window and navigate to that location and tell us what's in there?

Regards...
You know what...yesterday I didn't notice but the first time I paste that command in the terminal and then type my password, I get nothing. I have to paste it again and start over and then I get:
mv: cannot stat ‘/etc/apt/sources.list’: No such file or directory
I don't really understand whay you want to see in that file manager. Please be more clear.

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Old 02-25-2017, 01:14 PM   #21
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Yesterday, I did remove Gimp 2.8 from this laptop thinking it would need to be remove to install the 2.6 version. So, since that 2.6 version never came, I did try to put it back in but, to no avail. So, I did reinstall Lubuntu 14.04 and as usuall, it's impossible to install Gimp because it's not there.

gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get install gimp
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package gimp
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$


Seems you have to go with the update first but eeven thogh this did work in the past, it doesn't anymore.

gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$

Then this one:

gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package gimp
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$


So,seems that unless I could manage to update the Lubuntu install, I won't be able to get Gimp.



gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get update && apt-get install gimp
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$
 
Old 02-25-2017, 01:22 PM   #22
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I went to Software updater and it tells me the software on this computer is up to date. Where is Gimp ???
 
Old 02-25-2017, 01:49 PM   #23
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This sort of behavior is most likely linked to a low end/old GPU.

I know you said in your other thread that you do not want to put another penny in your old pc....however; should you decide to go ahead and install a newer GPU check that your mobo has a pci-e slot for it.

If your not sure what mobo you have run this cmd as root:

Code:
cat /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/board_vendor /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/board_name /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/board_version
Just to be sure I wasn't dreaming at the time, I did go again on this laptop with Linux Lite 1.0.8 . And you know what...that graphic card...yes, that SIS graphic card and that low end/old CPU...yes, that low end/old CPU work just fine with Gimp 2.8 , no tearing, the whole bunch of tools show in the tool box.
The idea that an older version of Gimp could maybe do the trick comes from another naysayer at an other forums telling me that Gimp is a huge thing and that my laptop isn't good enough to run it. I guess the older the Gimp version, the smaller it is. Oh! and that old laptop has been running Gimp starting like 10 years ago with...I think it was version 2 or 2.2 but...this was with Windows XP.
 
Old 02-25-2017, 01:59 PM   #24
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I found a recipe to get Gimp back. I all started in getting gedit if you don't have it ( I don't have it). I get this:

gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get install gedit
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package gedit
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:
 
Old 02-25-2017, 02:03 PM   #25
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Another recipe that wouln't work starting with this:

gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get install aptitude
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package aptitude is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$
 
Old 02-25-2017, 02:08 PM   #26
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Another thing that doesn't work:

gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[sudo] password for gilles:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
gilles@gilles-Aspire-3000:~$

Where is Gimp ?
 
Old 02-25-2017, 02:30 PM   #27
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What one can do with that?
http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/gimp/download
 
Old 02-25-2017, 03:16 PM   #28
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One real wonder...Gimp was definitively there yesterday and I did remove it and then did try to re-install it with that Apps basket thing but it wouldn't work. Now, I did erase the whole HDD and did reinstall Lubuntu 14.04 and...Gimp isn't there...where it went?

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Old 02-25-2017, 03:34 PM   #29
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Now... I did re-download Lubuntu 14.04 . I did re-burn it to a DVD. I did put it back in the laptop running it "live" and...Gimp is there in the Lubuntu Software center. Did try to install it ( I know it would have been just temporary) but I couldn't. Did get the message "Failed to download package files" "Check your Internet connection". As always, when you use these live CDs, you never can be connected to the Internet...unless I'm wrong?

Last edited by Lesl2; 02-25-2017 at 03:38 PM.
 
Old 02-25-2017, 04:25 PM   #30
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you're wrong. but i think it's a sensible choice to start from zero now (at least i think that's what you're doing).

were you connected to the internet before?

wired or wireless?
 
  


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