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Old 02-27-2004, 02:09 PM   #1
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How good is Wine

I am thinking of installing Mandrake 9.2 tonight on one of my older computers. My question is how good is wine? I want Linux to run almost, or as good as Windows. I know Windows isn't the stableist operating system. But it's nice because games, photoshop, office etc. So I just want to know if wine is good enough to emulate programs like this, or is it not stable enough yet. If you could let me know it would be appercaited. I have seen screen shots of Mandrake with Internet Explorer running, and like mIRC, Photoshop 7.0 on a couple. Thanks I am total
Old 02-27-2004, 02:33 PM   #2
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I didn't have much luck initially with the free Wine ... it takes too much tinkering for a Linux newbie like me.

However, I downloaded and installed the Crossover Office demo ( under Mandrake 9.2, and it works pretty good. If you don't know what Crossover is, it's the commercial version of Wine. Their code ends up in the free Wine project anyway, but the commercial version has nice installers.

I can now run Photoshop (faster than Windows), Illustrator, and InDesign, the holy trinity. I've also installed and used Dreamweaver extensively. I've heard that MS Office runs great as well, but I like the free OpenOffice better. I have Internet Explorer installed, but I don't use it because I like Firefox ( and Opera ( better.

Linux also has good IRC programs, so you probably don't need mIRC (but it might run, I haven't tried it).

Games are another story, for that you want the Wine add-ons made by Transgaming. You can get most of the popular games running on Linux now. Some (like Neverwinter Nights) also sell Linux installers.

Anyway, I recommend you install Mandrake 9.2 on one of the older machines you mentioned, and tinker with it. I did that with my laptop, and I discovered that I could get a lot more use out of it than when it ran Windows ME. Soon, all my computers will run Mandrake.

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Old 02-27-2004, 06:01 PM   #3
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I use Transgaming's WineX and it is a little hit and miss in terms of what is supported. But those games that run in it, run very well. I have Jedi Academy, Homeword 2 (single player only, as Multiplayer requires directplay), Homeworld 1 (the SDL version is still too buggy to run on my machine), Fallout 1 & 2, Pax Imperia Eminent Domain, Star Trek Elite Force, Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds, Star Trek Birth of the Federation, and a small handful of other games working in it.

Also, you can get Neverwinter Nights (and expansion packs) installers for free,... I don't recall the url for Ravage's website offhand.

Plus there are native versions of other games as well,... Quake 3 Arena (all Quake's actually), Unreal Tournament 2003, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Terminus, Medal of Honor Allied Assault (beta), and some others.

There are actually some native clones of things like M$ Office, like, for graphics editing there is the GIMP, and a solid handful of other programs as well. As for web browsers, you have your choice of Konqueror, Mozilla, Nautilus, Opera, Galleon (sp?), and a host of others. IE emulation is a feature on Konqueror and Opera.

For internet chat, there is Gaim...

So there is no lack of applications of entertainment software.
Old 02-27-2004, 11:38 PM   #4
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I found that I likes linux programs a lot better than the windows ones. Try mozilla firebird for windows and linux they are both better than IE by far. There are tons of IRC clients for linux and there is gimp instead of photoshop (though photoshop is still superior). As far as games go use winex.
Old 02-28-2004, 04:43 AM   #5
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Couple of useful links with regards to what runs.

Wine's "Gold" and "Silver" list of supported programs
Wine's AppDB of user's experiences with various games and programs, and often instructions on how to get them working
FranksCorner - a good site with more tutorials on how to get programs working as well as a Wine forums.

Personally I don't run a lot through Wine, most things can be done native in Linux, but I do use Photoshop6, Macromedia FlashMX, WinMX (Silver listed by Wine) and IE (to test my webpages) and they all work fine.


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