Has Winamp been ported to Linux?
 

Every windows & Linux user must agree that 'Winamp' for windows is a killer application. The thing I especially like about it is the ability of the program to act like a radio tuner for online internet radio streams.

My question is has this amazing program yet been ported to Linux? If so, where can I download a copy please?

Thanks
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Is there anything wrong with xmms? http://www.xmms.org

First of all, I must agree that Winamp kicks major butt... lol And yes, Nullsoft has ported WinAmp to Linux, although it is still in the alpha stages. You can download it here: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/au..._for_linux.cfm

Hope this helps!

-Tux Gamer

Xmms is a winamp clone in almost all aspects.
Want the gtk2.0 version ...use beep media player.
Both do shoutcast fine...you know...internet radio streams as you say.;)

I don't see how winamp could be better than xmms. Really there almost exactly the same, except xmms is not made by nullsoft (AOL) and xmms is better supported.

Really I'd recommend going with xmms for the community support.

Re: Has Winamp been ported to Linux?
 

Speak for yourself! Most everyone I know hates Winamp version3 onwards as ugly inefficient bloatware. It's easily the most disposable corner of the computer's internal 3-way war between Windows Media Player, Quicktime, and WinAmp (4-way war if the user is braindead enough to install the media-player-which-must-not-be-named.) Isn't it bad enough having a two-way warzone inside your computer? Why bother with a third combatant?

I am also curious about why Winamp is such a killer app. A lot of people seem to like winamp and I really don't get it. I don't think it's that bad, just not better than the others. In Windows, i like iTunes for it's user inteface and DAAP support, but it's kind of bloated and takes a long time to startup, which usually means I end up playing music in Media Player Classic over a SAMBA share (does winamp even have DAAP support??). I also use this java applet: http://www.petzall.se/daap/ when I need DAAP.
But now this is not a Windows forum, so what is the best player for Linux? (I realize the question is subjective, I just want peoples opinions in order to make my own).

Winamp is seen as the killer Windows jukebox app and the tool that all cool dudes must have, mainly as it supports skinning and was one of the first apps to do so. It's one of the few Windows apps that'll natively play .ogg AFAIK. I know Media Player Classic will as well, and that's one app that needs to be ported to Linux ASAP.

For the longest time I was a MusicMatch devotee until that became bloatware. Then I turned to Winamp. Sure, it won't rip without paying for the pro version but who cares? That's what Audiograbber is for :)

So, that's two apps that need native Linux versions: Winamp and Audiograbber. Yes, we have grip etc, but no Linux ripper I've used holds a candle to Audiograbber's ease-of-use and functionality.

Disagree if you will

:study:

Don't ever expect Media Player Classic to be ported to windows. It relies heavliy on Directshow and unless that is ported to linux, mpc never will. Besides, what's wrong with mplayer, vlc, totem, etc? IMO they are at least as good as mpc if not better.
And about ogg playback, what about foobar2000? That player will play most formats without extra plugins (of course it's quite ugly but I think skins exist). And if good looks is all that matters, itunes.
I've never used audiograbber, but I hardly believe it can beat nero at cd ripping (both features and ease of use), and nero is ported to linux (of course it costs too...).

Nero does a whole lot more than what Audiograbber does, that's why I didn't mention it. It isn't only a CD ripper.

Anyhow, I'm not trying to convince anyone that a is better than b; I'm just giving my opinion.

Neither was I, I just meant that Nero exists for linux. I haven't tried it though, as my OEM license doesn't cover the linux version...

i do love winamp but never really used it till i met it's clone xmms :D as i didn't know what winamp was.
if you would like the features that winamp currently offers here is what i use as its normal replacement:
xmms (ofcourse)
winamp classic skins (they will function as xmms skins as they are just renamed zips
streamtuner this will update all the indexes of shoutcast and a few others it also gives catagory browsing
afraid i have yet to find one that tapps into the video network winamp supplies
if you wish to make xmms supply the currently playing track from the stream go into the propertys via rightclick or just ctrl+P ---> "Audio I/O Plugins"--->Input Plugins--->"MPEG Layer 1/2/3 Player <version number> [libmpg123.so]" highlight that and select configure-->streaming And it is under the heading SHOUT/Icecast

if you need the trackinformation to be sent to another program for whatever reason i reccomend "xmms-announcer" i use it with mercury messenger for msn

How do you get global hotkeys working in XMMS?

Also, how do you get rid of its window, and only have it as an icon in the tray?

I was also looking how to allocate global hotkeys to XMMS and I found this:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/sus...keys-xmms.html

I use xfce4 and it was easy to add the keys I wanted to use.
As for the minimse to tray, there is a plugin that does it, but I can't remember what it was exactly.

Here are some links that maybe useful though
http://www.hellion.org.uk/xmms-status-plugin/
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=24006

Winamp is old skool. Why don't you try amaroK?

Audacious is way better than XMMS :)

http://audacious-media-player.org

If XMMS is a clone of Winamp, can it then use Winamp's plugins?
I use a 'noise sharpening'-plugin to enhance the sound quality, and I haven't found anything similar. It was originally a plugin for Foobar2000, foo_dsp_delta, but it got ported to Winamp due to its usefulness.
If XMMS can't use it or doesn't have a similar plugin, then Winamp should be ported to Linux.

iTunes is my music player in Windows Platform for its good looking, and I favor mplayer in Linux.

winamp runs fine under wine!

Amarok is more like the later versions of winAMP. The interface is a bit different, but I find it better. It also supports media player syncing. XMMS is identical to wimAMP 2.

Have you tried tunapie (http://tunapie.sourceforge.net)?

You can install it with apt-get in Debian Etch or Ubuntu.

It connects to the Winamp video and radio directory listings (as well as the xiph.org icecast directory).

(also I wrote it :) )

Nice. The video and radio directory lists and player is the one thing I miss about winamp. However I'm having some problems installing tunapie.

I have installed wxPython 2.8

I'm afraid I have not tested tp with wxpython 2.8.. It will probably not work, hence the failure to build on your system.. You could change all the wxversion.select() lines to ">2.6" or "2.8".. If you do that please let me know how you get on by email (jamesmstone {at} gmail {dot} com).. even if it is just some more error messages.

To just get the program running, install wxpython=2.6

install from here:

http://www.wxpython.org/download-2.6.3.3.php

alternatively, if you are using debian or ubuntu you should be able to install tunapie with apt-get update; apt-get install tunapie (will install all the dependencies).

James

And I have Winamp that supports botnets too ;P

I catched that while I was running honeypot and when it was submitted to the Norman Sandbox for closer examination that windows binary turned out to be backdoored Winamp.exe that acted as a botnet client program.

Win killer indeed :D

I will try installing 2.6

*Edit: works with wxPython 2.6 and wxGTK 2.6

I must be missing out on something here. I just click on whatever I want to listen to and let Linux choose which player it uses. They all sound the same to me. I do quite like watching Kaffeine though, and Totem is annoying because the volume always defaults to zero.

Oddly enough, Opera uses RealPlayer for RealStreams, and Firefox uses Helix. I must have a looksee what Konqueror is using.

Oooo... It asked me what I wanted to use. That just kinda trod all over my opening salvo. I'm going through upgrade/downgrade again hell at the moment. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it...

NOTHING i have found beats the full winamp with media library tho Amorak has great features We need winamp for linux at the end of the day

No, we don't. Some may *want* WinAmp ported to Linux, but there is no real need. There is a huge choice of alternative players, as discussed in this thread. Many of them behave exactly like WinAmp ... and WinAmp itself already runs under Linux in WINE. So "need" is exactly the wrong word.

Personally I find XMMS perfectly adequate for playing music in Linux. It has all the same browsing, searching and playlist support that WinAmp has.

CC

Ewwww Audiograbber is horrible, its almost as bad as recording from the mic-in!

Anyway Winamp 5.5 is great, as a) its gapless (XMMS is far from gapless -- try playing Dark Side Of The Moon on it!) and b) it uses far less resources (about 15mb of ram) than wmp and itunes (both consume about 100mb+). Also XMMS or even XMMS2, Audacious, Zinf all lack decent media libraries.

As for my choice? I go for Amarok as its as near to perfect player on linux at the moment. The only problems it has at the moment are that it consumes too much memory (fixed in version 2 i think) and it also isnt gapless (though better than xmms!) Oh and its good for organising ur collection. For video i use totem or mplayer.

My system:
kubuntu 7.10 (although i hav switched to Gnome)
AMD 2800+ /1256/asus k8-ux mobo

I'm not sure what you mean by 'gapless'.

Which is the best software for playing DVDs & VCDs? I think Totem sucks!!!

I'm running Winamp 5.5 on wine and it's not running quite well. It plays music and stuff, but from time to time it just crushes ;)
I'll be waiting Winamp for Unix ..

@ddd3: One of the limitations of mp3 and some other lossy formats is that the encoding and/or decoding sometimes causes unavoidable audible gaps or clicks between tracks, which can be very annoying when one is supposed to segue smoothly into the next. This can be overcome in software though.

Audacious has gapless ability with its cross-fader plugin. In fact, it has a whole range of song-transition capabilities (unlike most plugins, you configure it from the audio driver tab). It's my opinion that just about everyone who's been using xmms should switch to it. The gtk2 interface is so much nicer than those old gtk1 file dialogs xmms uses.

The only thing I really see Winamp as being desirable for is the multitude of plugins available for it. Even though xmms and audacious have a pretty good selection, they just can't rival the sheer number and variety of good plugins Winamp users have developed. But if you don't need the plugins, then any of the native linux players are just fine for normal audio playback (and even video, with the mplayer plugin). If you want media library capability, go with amarok, if you just want a simple, but powerful, player, use audacious.

Winamp working great on my Ubuntu - heres how...
 

Steps I took:

1. Download n-lite (for windows) and create a cut-down copy of windows XP (got mine down to a 250 meg install iso) Better to use one slipstreamed with SP2

2. On ubuntu install virtualbox (now better than vmware in my opinion)

3. Boot up virtualbox (run it with "virtualbox &". Mount the cut-down-xp install iso created with nlite

4. Install XP (took all of four minutes on mine with the automated install option in n-lite)

5. Install the virtualbox tools (i had to faff a bit to find the iso but wasn't too bad)

6. Install winamp (I also installed the awesome MEXP plugin)

7. Make winamp start up automatically by putting in the start menu of the virtual XP machine.

8. Hit seamless mode in virtualbox. All the windows then integrate with the ubuntu ones...If any problems with compiz, set the winamp skin to modern (rather than the totally new one they just invented).

I'm just about to make a command line to start the whole thing from the ubuntu menu. Won't be hard I'm sure

Timed the whole thing (starting virtualbox, booting XP and loading winamp) - to... wait for it.... 14 seconds!!!

I'm using Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex which uses Pulseaudio - set virtualbox to use pulseaudio for its audio settings. I'm not having any problems with it.

You can of course skip all the n-lite stuff and use the bog standard heavily bloated XP in its original state for testing, but I seriously recommend cutting it down with n-lite - its runs very quickly and seamlessly, and only has an overhead of 55 megs on my machine (and i haven't tweaked it yet)

I've been really annoyed about not being able to run winamp and mexp in ubuntu for a few years now, and very happy i've found a decent solution.

Why risk third-party download sites?
 

You obviously didn't get that copy of Winamp from Winamp.com. That's what you get when you download applications from third-party sites.

I agree that Winamp is a great program, and works much better on Windows than the Linux Winamp clones do on Linux, snide comments from others in this thread notwithstanding. Unless someone at Winamp.com has spun an under-the-table Linux version, it's not going to happen. See the June 2005 et seq. discussion thread at http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=249591.

Winamp founder Justin Frankel worked on a few rogue projects after AOL bought Winamp in 1999, but he was soon found out. Since he and most of the original coders left the company in disgust in early 2004 and AOL shut down Winamp's San Francisco offices, I understand the starched shirts at AOL have been keeping a tight reign on the coders there. That may be why we've seen nothing innovative -- mostly bug fixes -- from Winamp.com for the last four-and-a-half years. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Frankel.)

I can't install it
 

Yea, I can't seem to get it to install.

I'm new to linux. I've been trying to get it to work on my laptop off and on for several years now, starting first with Redhat (version 6 I think) and now trying with Ubuntu 9.04.

I've done a full install using the entire hard drive (no dual boot). So I'm trying it for real this time.

And one of the things I don't like about linux is the media player that it comes with. It looks like it's organized like an ugly Windows Media Player, which I also don't understand/like. I just want to point the thing at the right folders and have it play the music (without having to sort through albums and artists - neither of which have anything to do with how most of my mp3's are organized), which it doesn't seem to want to do.

Oh, and I had to download a plugin to even get it to look at, let alone play mp3's.

Winamp organized my music the way I wanted it to, it had simple, easy to use controls, and it played just about any format I could throw at it.

I never used the ripper in winamp. I used freerip (I think), which worked pretty well most of the time.

So, what I want is an mp3 player that lists my songs by their ID3 tags in a playlist, allows me to organize that playlist any way I want, plays any music format I want, is easy to install and maintain, has easy to understand and use controls (preferably like a stereo), and looks decent.

Is that xmms?

If so, how do I get it installed in Ubuntu?

From the website, I've got 2 options:

xmms-1.2.11.tar.bz2
xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz

Now, when I click on either one of those, I get the option to either open the file with the archive manager, or save the file.

If I open it with the archive manager, I can see and open the individual files, but none of them look like a setup file. The install document is basically telling me to go to a command prompt and start throwing commands at something somewhere. It looks like DOS, which I was highly functional in 15 years ago, but I don't understand the linux directory structure or commands yet, so I have no idea what this thing is telling me to do. And I'm in a GUI, so I have no idea how to even get to a command prompt in linux. In windows, it was F8 on boot, unless you opened the run window and accessed it through windows. I haven't found anything like that yet in Ubuntu.

If I save it, it sits in a download folder I set up and still does nothing. Clicking on it opens a different archive manager, and I still don't see an obvious way to set it up.

So, is xmms what I want? If so, how do I install it?

Found a few things, but still can't install xmms
 

I did find this:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-med...-overview.html

From there I got this line:

sudo apt-get install xmms

And when I went into Applications > Terminal and entered that, I got the following message:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package xmms has no installation candidate

Do you have the medibuntu repository on your sources list?

On software sources > third party software:

http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner

is the only one I have.

Just added it. Still no xmms.

http://www.medibuntu.org/ is the main page, it also has a repository how to so you can add it. https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/musicvi...s/C/index.html will also be of help, as will https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/add-app...s/C/index.html - I'd suggest reading through the last 2 links in reverse order.

Basically, having just that one repository is severely limiting the software and addons you can grab.

if you had n-lite why not just slipstream the winamp install into the windows xp install cd?

and as for winamp on linux? xmms is just fine, it can use winamp skins, not sure about plugins but xmms (havn't tried xmms2) also has some nifty things like xcplay and ncxmms and virtxmms that allow a guiless or curses based interface

xcplay: http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2294/virtxmms.png
ncxmms:http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/93/ncxmms.png

try doing that with winamp :p

Which repository has xmms?

I've tried every other player I can find, and I haven't liked any of them yet. I hate I-tunes and I don't want a player that emulates that at all.

I preferred Winamp's layout and functionality.

@David - try audacious it is exactly the same as the old xmms, and it even has my old ferrari theme called 'rosso' that I used to use on winamp and xmms

Synaptic Package Manager
 

I found some xmms stuff in synaptic package manager, but after clicking and installing it, there was no difference in my system whatsoever. Didn't show up in Applications. I didn't have a file labled xmms anywhere that I could find. It seems to have had no effect at all.

The multimedia issue is an extremely frustrating one.

David are you sure you found xmms and not xmms2 which is a command line not GUI app. If you are using synaptic look for audacious and download it and remove/uninstall the xmms that you got.

You're right it is xmms2.

Audacious? Will do.

Kaffeine and VLC are really good and they work nicely, especially Kaffeine.