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Old 09-03-2009, 12:34 PM   #1
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gtk notification from root cronjob


Hi, can anybody tell me if it is possible to configure a cronjob from root level so that it uses GTK applications (like gxmessage in my case) to give out notifications on the screen?
On my Debian machine the user can evoke these notifications from the script executed by his crontab but the same script executed from root's crontab doesn't bring up these messages. The scripts works, though, just the gxmessage part won't work.
I need the root permissions because the script is meant to be a system admin job with a final shutdown command in case the battery runs low.
I suspect that the script doesn't work because root in some cases is not "allowed" to run graphical apps for security reasons. Is that the case here?

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Old 09-03-2009, 05:28 PM   #2
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but the same script executed from root's crontab doesn't bring up these messages. The scripts works, though, just the gxmessage part won't work.
By default cronjobs will report errors to a preconfigured (MAILTO) or default (crontab owner) email address. Looking for clues in returned messages might give a clue. Common pitfalls are a missing DISPLAY variable or Xauth auth.
 
Old 09-03-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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Perhaps you can you do something like:

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su -c "DISPLAY=:0.0 gxmessage 'abc'" adminuser
 
Old 09-04-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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I actually can execute the script as root and it then also pops up the gxmessage notification. I tried defining the DISPLAY variable in the script as well as in the crontab. The same with the Xauthority variable.
I think I checked out all possible combinations. No results.
Note that the only thing which doesn't work is executing gxmessage from the crontab as root. It works as user, and it works as root from the command line. It really puzzles me, what is the difference between executing a script from the CL or from the crontab apart from the Display and xauthority?
About the error reports: I saw that there is no mail for root, I never configured it but I thought it would work automatically. The user gets mail, though. With Debian, by default, do I have to configure the mail system for root in order to have it working? Seems strange to me ...
 
Old 09-04-2009, 07:26 PM   #5
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I tried the suggestion nonsignal brought up:

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*/1 * * * * /bin/su -c "DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/local/sbin/batpowershutdown" myuser
That is a root crontab entry. With that the notification gets launched, but, of course, the shutdown command will
fail. I am kind of abusing my user for the gxmessage notification. If I change "myuser" for "root" again it doesn't work.
Btw, the scripts has the correct permissions set, it is using the commands with full path.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 02:44 PM   #6
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Ok, after another night fiddling around I found what was the problem.
It was actually the Xauthority as UnSpawn suggested. I tried that before already but apparently I did something wrong.
Anyway, it looks like the issue with gtk and root cronjobs is that root can't effectuate graphical notifications because it has no Xauthority file in /root. Hence X will negate access here. I guess cronjobs run in a very different environment than root from the CL. Otherwise I can't explain why the same scripts works from the CL and not from the crontab.
Nevermind, the solution here was using the Xauthority from the normal user by exporting it just before issuing the gxmessage command.
Hope that will be a help for someone having a similar problem one day.

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