Hi all...

I find myself limited by the fact that many of the apps i'm trying to install
are dependent on GTK whatever that is?? and all that follows with it...
(GLIB, ATK, Pango, etc)

i've posted earlier about this problem in relations to internet radio...
however i found a way around this....

but i'm getting persistant....

how do i install GTK... i've tried reading the install instructions but they don't do me any good since much of it is implied/"beforehand knowledge required", however i'm very much noob @ linux and not familiar with many of the terms... (running mandrake 10.0)

i would appreciate some help on basic guidelines and explanations
in simple "lay-mans terms" on how to perform this task, of installing GTK (4.2.x)

thx JNaas

PS. i'ver downloaded all the newest sources required as stated on the GTK website.

Well, GTK is the Gimp Tool Kit. It's a set of widgets that go toward making a graphical user interface for programs that use it.

What distro are we talking about?

install gnome2
that's the whole ball of wax
most people keep a working copy of gtk1 as well and all it's buddies

if you are doing ffrom source get a copy of the unstable Linux From Scratch book from cvs
and follow the gnome section
even if you are using more current versions at least you get a good template and some instructions to start with

as posted i'm using mandrake 10.0 official release 3cd version....

does gnome2 come as rpm package or bin??

because all my efforts so far with the
"./configure >make >make install"
procedure hasn't been successfull so far....

i don't know exactly what i'm doing wrong...
but there's gotta be something...
because i don't think Linux was intended to be as difficult
as, the linux i've experienced... however i'm very determined to learn how....

I think that linux users are generally more grey-haired than the avarage windows user... perhaps even more likely to become bald...

ok, taking a step back, i think you will *ALREADY* have gtk2 and gtk installed just fine.

thing is though, you're compiling from source, and as such you need the development packgages to actually compile new things with it. install gtk2-devel-2.6.2.i586.rpm (for example) from your cd's. then you should be able to compile stuff just fine.

I know a have that package installed... cause that was the first thing i looket for... searched the rpmdrake for gtk
and installed all the results...

however that didn't make much difference...

i'll start from scratch...

In order to install GTK 2.4.x i need to install:
- Glib 2.4.x
- atk
- pango

I have the souces for:

- GTK 2.4.13

- GLIB 2.4.7
- atk 1.6.x ...not sure though.. (but the newest from GTK's site)
- Pango (also the newest from GTK's site)

which should i install first..
are there any parameters i need to consider besides:
"$ ./configure"
"$ make" and
"$ make install" ????

even after installing the package from rpmdrake my /opt folder is still empty??

as far as i've read there should be a folder: /opt/gtk ??

hope someone outthere has some good answers

if you are running mandrake 10.0 then you DO NOT NEED TO INSTALL GTK FROM SOURCE. it will probably break something too, as gtk is alsways installed by default on that kind of distro. you have the rpm's. you should use them. same for pango, atk, glib, bonobo or anything else core to gnome.

gtk won't go into opt. it's a library, not a application suite or sdk...

try this...

rpm -qa | grep gtk

and post all of the results. at least this way we all know where things stand.

should i run Gnome????

i've run KDE so far.... the GTK is for instaaling apps in exaple KDEradiostation... dont i need to be in kde then?? or do i have to compile in gnome with it only applying to kde??

well in my world you don't run gnome OR KDE .... ;

you can use any app in any manager, kde apps while using gnome etc... don't worry about that.

then what do you use windowmaker??
or just console, can i stream audio in console??

well any info that wold give me an advatage is great...

well getting back to main question...

ass you might have guessed i'm still pretty noob at linux and would like to learn how....

what does the "rpm -qa | grep gtk" thing do??

i use fluxbox, but anyway... please run that rpm command. it will list all rpm's installed on your system, and find any with gtk in the name. it won't harm you i promise!

here ya go :
[jnaas@localhost jnaas]$ rpm -qa | grep gtk
gtk-engines-0.12-8mdk
gtk-themes-1.0-10mdk
libgtkmm1.2-1.2.10-7mdk
pygtk-libglade-0.6.11-4mdk
libgtk+2.0_0-devel-2.2.4-10.1.100mdk
libgtk+-linuxfb-2.0_0-devel-2.2.4-10.1.100mdk
libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-38mdk
gtkdialogs-2.1-1mdk
libgtkhtml1.1_3-1.1.10-4mdk
libgtkxmhtml1-1.4.2-7mdk
pygtk2.0-wrapper-2.0.0-2mdk
gtksourceview-0.7.0-1mdk
gtk-engines2-2.2.0-5mdk
libwxgtk2.5-2.5.0-0.cvs20030817.1mdk
libgtk+-linuxfb-2.0_0-2.2.4-10.1.100mdk
gtktalog-1.0.4-1mdk
gtk+licq-0.51-11mdk
libgtkhtml-3.0_4-3.0.10-1mdk
libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-38mdk
libgtkmm1.2-devel-1.2.10-7mdk
gtk+2.0-2.2.4-10.1.100mdk
libgtk+2.0_0-2.2.4-10.1.100mdk
libgtksourceview-1.0_0-0.7.0-1mdk
pygtk2.0-2.0.0-2mdk
libgtkspell0-2.0.3-5mdk
pygtk2.0-libglade-2.0.0-2mdk
gtkhtml3.0-3.0.10-1mdk
pygtk-glarea-0.6.11-4mdk
libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.2.4-10.1.100mdk
libgtkhtml2_0-2.4.1-2mdk
pygtk-0.6.11-4mdk
libexif-gtk4-0.3.3-6mdk
libgtkglarea5-1.2.3-6mdk
libgtkglarea5-devel-1.2.3-6mdk
gtkam-0.1.11-0.dev1.7mdk
[jnaas@localhost jnaas]$

hopy you find some useful stuff...