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Old 09-02-2003, 09:14 AM   #1
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Graphic Editor


Does anybody know of a good graphic editor? I have used gimp, but find that it is very slow. Using the wine emulator, I have installed Paint Shop Pro Version 3.0 and Adobe Photo Deluxe 3.1. These two programs work very well except one issue. They will not save files. Not very practical...
Adobe PhotoDeluxe will lock up on an export call, but otherwise runs fast like it was in the Windows environment. Paint Shop Pro will just act as if nothing has happened. This is very frustrating...
As for gimp, I find that it is very slow and that the filters are not very good. The gimp version that I am using is 1.2.3. I have not tried to install the latest versoin thinking that nothing has changed as far as speed goes. Is this a true assumption?
I guess what I am really looking for is a solution to the Adobe and Paint Shop problem. Any wine experts out there that could assist me in the difficulty?


 
Old 09-02-2003, 09:29 AM   #2
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Hmm. I use the Gimp Windows port frequently, and while it's no rocket (on my PIII-800), it's acceptable. Since it's a port, I would assume it'd be even faster on Linux. I've been using it since 1.2.0 and am currently using 1.2.5. What hardware are you running it on, and is there anything in particular you've found to be very slow?
 
Old 09-02-2003, 09:53 AM   #3
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I am using a ATI Mache 64 4meg card and 128megs SDRAM. Gimp is particularly slow at loading pictures, applying filters, and general image manipulation. When using Adobe or Paint Shop the loading is fast and the filters are quick. The only issue, as stated above, is that these two software pieces will not save the images under my current wine setup...

If I remember right, and that is a tale of woe, that the error message I received for Adobe is: "GetFileName95 is not yet implemented".
 
Old 09-02-2003, 10:10 AM   #4
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Wow, 4 MB graphics card? Haven't seen one of those in a long time. Anyway, you may be running into a low-memory situation, with only 128 MB of RAM. Is the drive swapping a lot when you're loading? Try closing any other programs you're running, and run top (hit "M" to sort my memory usage) to find potential memory hogs. If you appear to be good on memory, then the culprit is your CPU--you need a faster one. I don't know if a newer GIMP build would be any better for you, but it wouldn't hurt to try. ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.2/v1.2.5/
 
Old 09-02-2003, 10:30 AM   #5
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Hehehe... Yes the video card is an old card, but it is all I can afford right now. I basically keep it because it has a tuner card built in, and I enjoy watching TV through it. In order to upgrade I would have to buy another video card, used, and a ATI Tuner. Ah.. I will tough it out with this old thing....
As for gimp, Adobe and Paint Shop run nice and fast even in an emulator. Speed is not an issue with them, but gimp is soooooo sssslllloooowwwww.... I will give the memory checking thing, that you suggested, a try later today. By the way, thanks for your help.. it is greatly appreciated...
Also, I would like to aquire more memory. As for my CPU, it is a AMD Duron 950Mhz. I have lots of upgrading to do, but the lottery comes first...
 
Old 09-03-2003, 12:38 PM   #6
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A Duron 950's pretty good. At this point my best guess is either the specific version of Gimp thou run, or a low-memory condition. P.S. When you get some cash in your grubby fists, next to the Radeon 9800 on your shopping list don't forget to add Morrowind. (And Tribunal and Bloodmoon while you're at it!)

And then buy the Lord of the Rings soundtracks and add the tracks to Morrowind. (128 Mbps MP3s)
 
Old 09-03-2003, 03:21 PM   #7
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I think that when I get some cash I will be upgrading the memory issue. This is the cheapest of the lot. A Radeon 9800 sounds a little out of my price range, however most things are out of my price range... I usually purchase used items, and I have had some really good luck with them. This is one, of the many, reason that I like the linux OS.
As for gimp; I will try and compile the latest version and see if that makes a difference. I am really not anticipating anything great, but I will never know until I try...
I am still puzzled over the Adobe and Paint Shop issue. Adobe runs really nice in linux, using the wine 20030813 version. It runs as if it is running on XP. Fast and efficient. I have tampered around with the configurations of wine, but I have come up with nothing. I guess no one else has an idea as to why this is happening. It has to be a configuration issue, because the first time I installed Adobe PhotoDeluxe I cancelled the installation at eighty-one percent. Then I tried to load a picture, just for the fun of it all, to see it it was ok. The setup program that Adobe sends with the program wants to install reader and type manager and I did not want it on my system, so I cancelled it. Anyway, at that point I COULD export to a file format of JPG. I guess I really need to spend time digesting the wine emulator...
 
Old 09-03-2003, 10:38 PM   #8
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Talking

I finally scraped up enough money to purchase a stick of 256 SDRAM. It was on sale, as luck would have it, at Futureshop. You were right jogar, my memory was low, but I really do not know why linux requires so much memory to run. Anyway, I now have 384 megs of SDRAM and my system does respone much better now.... As for the video card... I am just going to have to wait....

Does anybody out there have any explanation about the Adobe and PaintShope issue that I am having?
 
  


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